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    Hi,

    Have a motor ecu and wiring here from a jzz30 that will be going into another car. Now i remember with the JZA70 ECU, it has a output wire to connect to the CEL.

    The jzz30 seems to be different, Have been comparing the jza70 and jzz30 ecu pinouts, and see that the jzz30 ecu has no such wire from the ECU to connect to the CEL (for counting flashes). No idea how the errors are checked on the z30, whether the ecu communicates to the dash somehow.

    Am wondering is there anyway I can be able to check error codes with a z30 1jz in another car?

    On the jza70 ecu, the pin labelled "W" is the CEL wire, I cant find this pin on the jzz30 pinouts.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    W pin is located right next to the M-REL pin on the jzx90/jzz30 ecu's.
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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    As said, there is a W pin



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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    I must be blind.

    Thanks guys, so error codes can be checked as normal just like on the JZA70? bridging the pins on the diag con and hooking up a Light to the W Pin and reading the flashes?

    Was under impression that with jzz30 you actually got Japanese writing displayed.

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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Z2TT View Post
    I must be blind.

    Thanks guys, so error codes can be checked as normal just like on the JZA70? bridging the pins on the diag con and hooking up a Light to the W Pin and reading the flashes?

    Was under impression that with jzz30 you actually got Japanese writing displayed.
    Sure can, just like normal.

    I'm not too up on the JZZ30's but I imagine that the W pin also goes to the dash then that could be the case. But the normal W pin and Light will work fine

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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    Thanks,

    Could anybody confirm? As I thought using the CEL to count flashes was an 80's thing.

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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    You can still do it on a 2010 toyota so id say you can on a 1990s one

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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Z2TT View Post
    Thanks,

    Could anybody confirm? As I thought using the CEL to count flashes was an 80's thing.
    Trust me.

    W pin going to a Light and bridging TE1-E1 will work.
    The 1JZ in my JZA61 was a JZZ30 engine / ECU and I did this many a time.


    As said even the OBDII stuff has a flashing check engine light, well JZA80 (VVTi) and JZS161 that I have played with at least did

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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    Ok Thanks everybody

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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    I would point out that you must manually check if the loom you have does route all the signals needed to DLC connectors. It is usual that some connections are run through body loom, and upon engine swapping you have to make appropriate connections manually. While TE1 and TE2 are not available then TC should be used instead.

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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    I have wired in a switch to switch the TC pin in the OBD connector to earth . Tell me George are you able to link a laptop to your ECU through the OBD port for diagnosis and if so what software do you use?
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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    I have a post-1998 1JZ so it uses OBD2. Physical interface is K-line (SIL pin on the ECU). I even have a k-line to serial port adapter which I used for reprogramming the ECU for my previous engine. But since the adapter is not opto-coupled I doubt to use it in a car.

    As for the software, we do have here a number of obd2-related projects, I've downloaded one that lists post-1998 jzx100 among tested vehicles but haven't tried it yet. It's freeware so I could post it here, however keep in mind it's a beta and it's not translated to English.

    If you have a spare ECU ;-) I would give you a simple k-line adapter schematic so you could check the connection at home, and if the software works in general then I'll think of translating it somehow. A k-line adapter itself is easily tested with some terminal software, for example one that comes with any Windows system. If everything is ok then after estabilishing serial connection to it you type some characters and see them displayed in the terminal window as incoming stream.
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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    I have a 2001 JDM 1JZ which has the OBD2 socket but being JDM is not OBD2 compliant the best I have done so far is extract error codes using the MIL lamp. I would not mind trying the freeware you mentioned to see if works at all with mine
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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    ok, download everything listed at the bottom of the 1st message here
    http://pccar.ru/showthread.php?t=11362

    unzip/unrar the "jobd" archive to some folder, then put the content of "profiles[71]" archive to "ecu" folder of "jobd" software

    try to run the software at home first. Figure out what you don't understand, I'll check out this forum and answer everything in 9 hours

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    Default Re: anyway to check codes on 1jz converted car? (JZZ30 Donor engine)

    Thank you George I will have to get the hardware probably take me a couple of weeks to set up and try.Will get back to you then
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