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    Default The 152E dedicated thread

    i found this when reading up a thread of some guys building a RA63 TTE replica.

    site: http://www.gaulbachtal.de/rallye/htm...d_antrieb.html

    teaser pics:

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    Default Re: 152e motor - detailed pics/specs (in german)

    hi-five for the extractors and merge collector!

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    Default Re: 152e motor - detailed pics/specs (in german)

    Damn, I want that! Although, shame he isn't putting it in the RA40 with the boot, as I think it's supposed to be. They look so much tougher with flares.

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    Default Re: 152e motor - detailed pics/specs (in german)

    You know what, a lot of ppl have little pieces of interesting info on this motor... and many more would like to know the story.

    Chuckster, what do you think about renaming the thread to something like "The 152E dedicated thread" or "oldschool toyota race motor dedicated thread" or something? Surely there is more info floating around in ppls heads than that one page script on Toysport that keeps getting posted over and over?

    Edit: Above script, shamelessly taken from http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20...am_article.htm to get us started

    152E I4 DOHC 4 82 1998 89 80 240 / 9000 185 / 5500 11.5:1 18R BASED 16 VALVE
    152E I4 DOHC 4 80-84 2185 92 80 280 / 9000 SCORE / HDRA
    152E I4 DOHC 4 83-85 2185 92 80 310 / 9500 IMSA

    All official Toyota Race Engines come from one source- TMC (Toyota Motor Corporation Japan).

    The early beginning of Toyota motorsport involvement started with 4 engineers working on production based engines. Experimentation and experience led to the production of the first Toyota Twin Cams- the 3M and 9R. The 3M powered the 2000GT and the 9R powered the Corona 1600 GT. The first race engines were prepared in-house by TMC’s Group 7 section (manufacturing not racing!), starting in the late 60’s to early 70’s.

    In 1968 Toyota released it’s first race engine- a 3000cc V8, 2-vavle. The next year the engine became a 5000cc V8 4 valve. (A full 20 years before the Lexus LS 400 / Toyota Celsior!) In another year the engine received Twin Turbos.

    The early race engines were based on the K and T series Corolla / Celica street engines. The Group 7 engineers and mechanics also developed the original racing twin cam models, 2TG (100E) and 18RG. These early Twin Cam engines were later issued with 16 valve heads with highly modified stock blocks- 151E (2TG) and 152E (18RG), and a 16 valve Twin Cam 3K too!– these were the first engines developed and assembled by TRD (formerly known as TOSCO).

    TRD (Technocraft) has been the official parts outlet for TMC produced race related hardware. Initial development of the 4TGTE and later development of the 503 (after IMSA) were also done in-house at TRD. TRD supplies the FIA and JICA all the homologation specifications for all Toyota vehicles. TRD also supports the Japan only Formula Toyota 4AG 20Valve spec engines. The TRD SPORTS PARTS line is distributed worldwide by TRD (Technocraft).

    TMC supplied TTE (Toyota Team Europe) with base engines that TTE further developed under Toyota Europe contract. TTE had their own specifications for the 2TG, 18RG, 152E, 4TGTE, 3SGTE, and some 7MGTEs, but the basic production based blocks and heads were from TMC. The 1998 and 1999 Le Mans engines were also produced by TMC and developed by TTE. During the last two (and final) appearances of Toyota in Le Mans- these engines powered the fastest cars in the event. The new F1 project is a totally new project fully funded by TMC and jointly being developed by TMG (Toyota Motorsport GmbH)- the new name for TTE.

    TMC directly supplied some Japanese Toyota Race Teams with fully built engines (TOM’s, TRUST, SARD, …… ) that these race teams further tuned externally. Through the years, engines supplied included the original 2TG/18RG based race units, the 16 valve 150 versions, the 4TGTEs, and the 503E engines. Previously used in Le Mans, the 503Es are currently used in the Japan Touring Series. The TOM’s developed production-based 3SGEs are the most successful versions of the engine series (in Formula racing applications) are not TMC issue.

    TRD USA further developed the 152Es to 2100cc. (IMSA GTU and SCORE/HDRA), the interim 4TGTEs (IMSA GTO), produced the most famous 503Es (IMSA GTP / Pikes Peak), and the world-renowned Formula Atlantic engines. The spec series Atlantic engines are sold as kits to accredited engine assemblers. The current RV8E CART engines are supplied by TMC but developed, assembled, and tuned exclusively by TRD USA. TRD supplies complete engines to the contracted Toyota CART teams. Modified 5VZ for NASCAR is also under development and testing. The current aluminum truck race engines are assembled and developed in-house at TRD USA. TRD USA distributes it’s own line of Sports Parts and Accessories, intended exclusively for the U.S. models and market.

    There are some official issued engine designations and specifications- but they are not accurate. Usually the specifications are based on the original design versions and for promotional information use only. For obvious reasons, the specifications announced are only representative of the race engine model- as supplied to FIA or the sanctioning group.

    All race engines from the worldwide Toyota Motorsport Group originate from TMC with development and tuning by TRD (Technocraft) Japan, TRD USA, and Toyota Motorsport GmbH.

    All these companies are owned by Toyota Motor Corporation, through the local national affiliate- Toyota Motor Sales.


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    The ultimate versions of both the 2TG and 18RG were made by TRD- they were known as the 151E and 152E respectively and came with 16 valve heads, both were available in carburetor (50mm Mikunis) and fuel injection (mechanical Denso) models. There was also a 150E 16-valve version of the 3K / 4K engines. These 16 valve heads were the forerunners of today's 4AG, 3SG, 7MG, and 2JZG engines. These were race only non-production heads, with heavily modified blocks. The 152E race engine was used for US Toyota's early back-to-back victories in desert/stadium racing and IMSA GTU events. The 152E was used in Europe for the FIA World Rally Cup series.

    The most famous and successful Toyota Race engine- the 503E was used in Toyota's Triumphant Championship seasons in IMSA GTO / GTP, Pikes Peak, Le Mans, and in the mid-90s Japan Touring Cup Championship. It is important to note that the 16 valve cylinder head layout from the 152E engine and the T block crankshaft saddle design were used as design base for this ultimate Toyota 4 cylinder Turbocharged race engine. The 503E represented the most powerful 4 cylinders in competition history developing over 1000HP in qualifying tune, 800HP for sprint races, and 600 for endurance events. IMPRESSIVE.
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    Default Re: 152e motor - detailed pics/specs (in german)

    Toysport acctually have a 152E Running in an *A21 Celica... there's an article in a previous "Modified Classics Retro Cars" Magazine where they showed some pics of the car at a classic toyota day. Cary (with the 1JZ TA22) was at the same gathering, so he might have some good shots... Also OldCorollas knows of someone in Japan with a 152E in a TE27 Coupe... he's got some pics of it too...

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    RN16 Hilux; 18RG swap underway http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40561

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    but im trying to use bolts with this car.

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    Default Re: 152e motor - detailed pics/specs (in german)

    sweet baby jeebus that engine is awesomeness
    1988 AW11 9A-GTE - Turbo Missile | 2004 Elise K20A - N/A Screamer | 1984 MA61 1JZ-GTE - 80s cruiser
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    10 grand can get you one from toysport..
    Cheers, Alex

    - 1976 TA23 2T-GTE GT3076 ID1000cc E85 Haltech PS1000, W58, G Series Diff, B45 Simmons

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    Default Re: 152e motor - detailed pics/specs (in german)

    i'd rather a formula atlantic 4ag though
    1988 AW11 9A-GTE - Turbo Missile | 2004 Elise K20A - N/A Screamer | 1984 MA61 1JZ-GTE - 80s cruiser
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    .....and the within first laps everything that made the AW11 great hit Rex as if the 'Gods of driving fun' had all Jizzed on his face.....
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    I'd rather a Formula Toyota 2ZZ
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    Default Re: The 152E dedicated thread

    What gives the 503E such potential? Obviously something of a grenade? or perhaps derived from F1 turbo era where they had 1000hp motors (that might last a qualifying session).
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    Default Re: The 152E dedicated thread

    it's interesting to see that today's high output toyota engines using some of the designs.. look at the inlet ports or the 152E and a 2ZZ-GE..



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    Default Re: The 152E dedicated thread

    Some historic info to kick this thread along. These are probably re-posts but not to worry:







    And to add a bit of variety to the 18R based engine history:

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    wtf? twin spark 18RG? Am I missing something?
    '77 RA28LT #2 ← 2.2L 18RG...

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    Default Re: The 152E dedicated thread

    its actually a 3TG head on a 18R block with a modified 18RG cam cover.....
    Cheers, Alex

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