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    Default Smallport 4age valley cover part number

    Im trying to find the rubber gasket that is attached to the valley cover on the smallport 4age. Mine completely falls to bits when I pull the cover off.

    I had the toyota parts department look up a 1989 4age but the diagram that came up was for a bigport. He also said he doubts the gaskets would even be made any more so does anyone know of a company that sells these or have remade them?

    Why does it seem so hard to find parts for the smallport?

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    Which valley cover? The bottom one that sits between the cam covers with the spark plug holes in it or the ribbed one that goes on top of the spark plug wires (and has the hump at the distributor end)?
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    Default Re: Smallport 4age valley cover part number

    11214-16050 - is listed for the internal one... the one the spark plug wires go through. The cover (shown in the ignition section) doesn't seem to have a gasket....
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    Default Re: Smallport 4age valley cover part number

    Yeah the internal one, thanks for that. Just out of curiosity, how did you get that number?

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    Default Re: Smallport 4age valley cover part number

    Smallport started in august 1989 for the 1990 year model... 1989 still had the largeport
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    Quote Originally Posted by bermy View Post
    Smallport started in august 1989 for the 1990 year model... 1989 still had the largeport
    In Aus, we call cars by the year they are made/sold, not Model Year. The AE92 was first released here in June 1989 with the smallport 4AGE as a 1989 model, not 1990.
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    Default Re: Smallport 4age valley cover part number

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiro View Post
    In Aus, we call cars by the year they are made/sold, not Model Year. The AE92 was first released here in June 1989 with the smallport 4AGE as a 1989 model, not 1990.
    Whatever, asking the parts guy at the toyota dealer to look up a part for a 1990 AE92 with a 4AGE would've been the thing to do to be sure to get the right part
    KE20 1974 <- Sold -> Thread
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    Yeah I did have that thought, however after he asked me three times if the car had the original engine in it I soon realised he actually had no idea what he was talking about. He wasn't even aware of different 4age variations.

    If I were to ask for a 1990 ae92 I would probably get parts for a 4afe. In Aus the redtop 4age only came in the ae93 sx and sx seca, then the series 2 sx seca and gti (released around 90 or 91).

    I'll go in there Monday with that part number and see if they are still available.

    Oldeskewltoy- did you use toyodiy.com to get that part number? I had a look on there but without a diagram to go with it I was pretty lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodick View Post
    Yeah I did have that thought, however after he asked me three times if the car had the original engine in it I soon realised he actually had no idea what he was talking about. He wasn't even aware of different 4age variations.

    If I were to ask for a 1990 ae92 I would probably get parts for a 4afe. In Aus the redtop 4age only came in the ae93 sx and sx seca, then the series 2 sx seca and gti (released around 90 or 91).

    I'll go in there Monday with that part number and see if they are still available.

    Oldeskewltoy- did you use toyodiy.com to get that part number? I had a look on there but without a diagram to go with it I was pretty lost
    yes... but toyodiy had a few errors... i had to find it under a japan listing
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    Quote Originally Posted by bermy View Post
    Whatever, asking the parts guy at the toyota dealer to look up a part for a 1990 AE92 with a 4AGE would've been the thing to do to be sure to get the right part
    Why ask for a different year? If you want parts that you know will fit your car, you tell them what your car is. Toyota Australia will have accurate listings and parts books for the models they manufactured and sold here (our Corollas weren't imported so they can have different model names, year dates and spec to Japanese or US models), if the muppet in front of the keyboard can't find the correct part in the catalogue for a 1989 model (they came out in June so it's not like they only started selling them mid-December, it was definitely a car available in 1989) he probably won't find it in a 1990 listing either. Worst case you give them your VIN number and it removes any confusion whatsoever (a lot of non-specialist dealerships will straight-up ask you for VIN and refuse to give you parts information without one, which can make asking for parts for an engine conversion rather difficult).

    As for ToyoDIY, it often does not accurately cover Australian-made models (especially Corollas and Camrys). Also, it has a tendency of showing pictures of bigport engines for smallport listings, just with N/A listed for the TVIS manifold etc.
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    Default Re: Smallport 4age valley cover part number

    To the guys credit he did eventually ask me for the VIN number which I didn't have on me. I'll take that with me from now on.

    Is there a way of viewing the diagrams to go along with toyodiy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodick View Post
    Is there a way of viewing the diagrams to go along with toyodiy?
    Toyota basically forced ToyoDIY to take down the diagrams a year or two ago, there are other sites out there with the diagrams
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    AE82 - Rosie the Bitsa from Hell, 70.8kw atw. Has been converted into garage space and money at last
    KE55 - Billie the Beast, sadly missed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiro View Post
    Toyota basically forced ToyoDIY to take down the diagrams a year or two ago
    Yeah, that's what they say...
    KE20 1974 <- Sold -> Thread
    AE95 1990 <- 4A-GZE daily driven wagon...

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    Default Re: Smallport 4age valley cover part number

    Part arrived from Japan yesterday and I can confirm that it is the correct part number Pretty good delivery speed from toyota, I ordered it on the 13th and was told it would take 4-6 weeks!

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