Engineering a turbo in NSW - experiences/costs?

[Ashh]

Hey, just finishing off a turbo build of my TA22 Celica and wondering how hard the engineering process is going to be? Does anyone have any experiences?

I've also heard aftermarket ECU's can be a real pain? I'm running a MS2 controlling spark and fuel, however the manifold is a OEM toyota one so maybe I could just say it has a standard ECU?

[stidnam]

Aftermarket is legal but

Note:
If non-original components such as camshafts, carburettors or engine control
modules (ECM) are fitted in an ADR emi
ssions complying vehicle, it must be
demonstrated that emission levels are retained.

Refer here for source under item 5

toyo-al recerntly got his 3TGTE engineered in a TA22 so it is worth looking at his thread

[Ashh]

Ah brilliant. Isn't 1974 pre-emmisions though? Ta22's didn't even come with cats!

Cheers for the pointer/link

[ToyTA22]

Ah brilliant. Isn't 1974 pre-emmisions though? Ta22's didn't even come with cats!

Cheers for the pointer/link

Ashh. A link to ADR's which some do apply to 1974 vehicles:

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...tion_adrs.aspx

Paste this to your browser, gives a technical specs for adr's. Simply put ADR27 & 27A are for vapour emissions which involves carbon canister, ADR28 is for exhaust noise and exhaust emissions. Vehicles after January 1974 should have these ADR's.

[Ashh]

I think I'll just fill it with E85, tune it for an hour or so and then go do the emissions test. It'll definitely pass then

[Josh_TA22]

Some great links here guys!

Just to confirm my understanding, does that mean since my celica is a 72 model, I only have to comply with the 1972 ADR's even though my motor is a 83ish 3tgte?

Cheers Josh

[HMI265]

you have to meet emissions related adr's for the later part, either car or motor.
So in your case emissions related adr's for the motor.

[Josh_TA22]

Cheers mate really appreciate the response,

So with that theory in mind, if I was to put a 2T back in and Turbo it would I only need to meet the 72 emissions? Or would it then come under a different/modified section that could meet different standards?
Just trying to gauge what would be easier, if Id be better to stroke a 2T block with the 3TGTE internals or just reco the 3TGTE i currently have

BTW sorry to hijack the thread.

Cheers Josh

[Ashh]

Pretty sure the 3TGTE block is just the same as a 3T block, which is pretty much the same as a 2T block with light grinding (I did it to my 2T block to fit the 3T crank and it wasn't hard. Dremels are awesome!).

And then you would only have to pass the 72 emissions.

No worries, everyones got questions

[trdee]

no, the 3TGTE would need to pass the emissions for the year that the 3TGTE engine was manufactured. Otherwise people with 1992 20v 4ages would only need to pass emissions for 1983 bluetop 4AGEs

you need to pass emissions for the year related to either the manufacture of the car or the engine, whichever is later. just like HMI265 said

that being said, the 3TGTE isnt all that new of an engine either iirc? emissions shouldnt be that hard, especially if you run E85

[Draven]

you're not the turbo 22 I pulled up next to at the Epping rd underpass on Ryde rd are you?

And as Vito said, e85, aftermarket computer and a new cat should easily pass 3T-GTE emissions

[Ashh]

Sorry forgot to specify. I was suggesting he use the 2T block so that he retained the engine number of the 2T and switch over the head/internals. So it would be a 3TGTE but with a 1972 build date as it would have the 2T engine number.

Draven@ I don't think so, was it a black celica with red racing stripes?