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    Default DIY: T50 Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k ***

    Same post as the other site - just brought over so it could be updated (in the very near future - I hate waiting for parts!)

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    Rebuilding (synchro's/bearings) t-50 toyota transmission.

    Part #'s :
    04331-14030 - Trans gasket kit (includes output shaft & input shaft seals)

    90365-30020 BEARING, x 1 - Front - Input shaft bearing
    90361-06047 ROLLER x 12 - Input/Output shaft roller/bearing
    90363-25017 BEARING, x 1 - Rear - output shaft bearing
    90369-30027 BEARING x 1 - Center - output shaft bearing
    33365-14011 KEY, SYNC x 3 - 1/2 synchro hub keys
    33368-20012 RING, SYN x 2 - 1/2 synchro's
    33367-14010 RING, SYN x 2 - 3/4 synchro's
    90365-30015 BEARING, x 1 - count shaft center bearing
    90365-20004 BEARING, x 1 - front countershaft bearing
    90365-20001 BEARING, x 1 - rear countershaft bearing
    33394-14010 KEY, 3&4 x 3 3/4 synchro hub keys
    33366-14010 KEY, 5&R x 3 5/Rev synchro hub keys
    33367-14010 RING, SYN x 1 - 5th gear sychro
    33363-14012 SLEEVE, T x 1 - 1-2 shift collar/synchro hub
    33364-14010 SLEEVE, T x 1 - 3-4 shift collar/synchro hub
    90364-37002 BEARING, x 2 - 1st & 2nd gear brgs
    90364-37004 BEARING, x 2 - reverse gear brgs
    90364-27003 BEARING, x 1 - 5th gear brg

    Last part on Order
    ?????-????? x 1 - Output shaft end bushing

    Transmission pictures, steps and other useful info:

    1. Transmission. (cleaned up, except for parts of the sr-5 bell housing which is going in the trash most likely)


    2. Bell housing.


    3. Bell housing removed: Pretty simple to do. Remove throw out bearing, clutch fork and intput shaft collar (4 - 12mm bolts inside bell housing). Then you simply unbolt the 7 (or maybe its 8) 14mm bolts holding the bell housing onto the trans.


    4. Extension housing.


    5. Speedo gear removal/removed: Also relatively simple, but kind of delicate. Undo the 10mm bolt and remove the holding tab. Get some sort of penatrating lubricant (PB blaster in my case) and give a shot/drop where speedo gear goes into the Extension Housing. Get a flat tip screwdriver (med-large) and gently pry upwards while wiggling towards and away from the screw driver - be VERY careful as the aluminum housing for the speedo gear is pretty brittle/delicate and will chip if too much force used. Once it's part way out you won't be able to pry anymore, put the holding tab and bolt back in (facing away from speedo gear) and use it as a new pry point and continue. It'll come out - eventually.

    Tip: if you have a spare speedo cable or a busted one its very easy to thread onto the end of the speedo gear and makes wiggling/tugging/removal much easier.
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    6. Speedo gears and gt-s speedo gear p#


    7. SR-5 speedo gear - note the #20 stamped on it, it's the # of teeth it has and determines how fast the cable spins - thereby how fast the speedo shows.


    8. GT-S speedo gear - has a #19, spins the cable just a little slower. Since the differential ratio is lower in the gt-s than the sr-5 (ie more revolutions of motor required to make the vehicle move the same speed) it's necessary to install a different speedo gear to match the gt-s gearing.


    9. Shift lever stops/pins: Remove both from extension housing, easy to do, weren't in there all that hard either. Just a quick tap with an open palm on a crescent wrench and they were loose and spun right out.


    10. Reverse sensor: Remove, just use a 19mm deep socket. Behind/beneath the reverse sensor/switch is a ball bearing - remove it using a magnetic finger/wand/stick. (or flip the tranny over, it'll probably come out - just don't lose it!)

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    11. Remove extension housing: here's where the shifter stops/pins being removed helps, by rotating the shifter cup/bucket/intermediate shaft in the extension housing you can slide the extension housing back and off without much difficulty. (no need to knock out the spring pin/clip in the shifter socket/bucket and sliding the shaft out - too much work)


    12. Remove shift shaft check ball's & springs: Roll transmission upside down, remove the two 10mm bolts and plate. The springs you can pick up with your fingers, but the check balls will be down lower and you'll need a magnetic finger/shaft to get them out (as with the reverse switch ball. you can flip it over - just don't lose them!).


    13. Remove case half: Remove all 12mm bolts (11 total I think), tap case gently up and away from other half with a brass hammer or rubber mallet and it should come free.


    14. Case removed - looks pretty cool, the input/output shaft and balance shaft will lift right out without having to do anything with the shift forks. Just remember, remove balance shaft first.


    15. Case Cleaned.

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    23. Input shaft - pulls right out with ease, and the roller bearings just fall out.


    24. Input shaft - shaft partially dissassembled, front portion of output shaft dissassembled (3rd gear, synchro, 3-4 collar, clips, keys) Unfortunately I need a press and bearing remover to pull the bearing off the input shaft for replacement.


    25. Output shaft - cleaned up after front dissassembled.


    26. Speedo driver gear - on rear end of output shaft, removed.
    NOTE: if rebuilding a trans from an sr-5 you will need to change this out with one from a gt-s.


    27. Counter shaft - front bolt and bearing/shaft retainer clip.


    28. Counter shaft - rear clip.
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    29. Some of the parts needed have arrived. Of the bearings in the red boxes - only the three for the input/output shaft and the middle bearing (with dimple, for countershaft) have arrived, I will be ordering the two outer countershaft bearings.


    30. Puller/Tool used to remove the outer bearings on the countershaft. On the front bearing the puller tool will slip right into the opening for the retaining bolt. So what I did was grab a spare stud from the side of a largeport block (the same studs that hold alt/ps/ac/motor mounts) and used that as a press point.


    31. Front counter shaft bearing dissassembled (order of installation from left to right - washer/race goes down first, then bearing assy, then main bearing race - which is held in place by a bolt)


    32. Front counter shaft bearing again - hopefully you can make out the part #, probably can pick 'em up aftermarket with a cross reference/guide.


    33. Front counter shaft bearing again (shown in order of installation)


    34. Rear counter shaft bearing. (order of installation - washer/race, bearing assy, main bearing race, then retaining c-clip)


    35. Rear counter shaft bearing - part #.


    36. Partially disassembled countershaft.

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    37 - Trans gasket kit


    38 - Dissassembled output shaft - You'll need a press and a small and medium/large bearing seperator. When dissassembling be sure not to loose the three small ball bearings/locking balls as they can fall out and get lost fairly easily. Also the 3/4 size clips that are removed will bounce right off the floor and into no-mans land if you're not careful, I'd recommend laying down a nice fluffy towel to dampen the impact as you don't want to loose those either.

    (parts start at top Left and go in order of dissassembly from the end of the output shaft all the way to 2nd gear.)


    39 - Output shaft end bearing


    40 - Output shaft center bearing


    41 - 1-2 shift collar - 2nd gear side


    42 - 1-2 shift collar close up (I will be replacing it, too much wear/damage)


    43 - Input shaft - new bearing installed


    44 - Input shaft bearing


    45 - Counter shaft center bearing installed


    46 - Counter shaft center bearing


    More to come... Close up of bearings provided so the mfg. #'s can be seen and hopefully used to put together a parts list from aftermarket for a less costly repair (as I have spent quite a bit thus far and more to go)

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    47 - more parts.



    48 - Countershaft assembled w_new bearings.



    49 - Assembling Outputshaft - 2nd gear _ synchro hub installed.

    Here's where the fun starts, when reassembling the output shaft there are 3 small ball bearings which sink into the output shaft and hold certain pieces steady. When pressing it together you need to keep everything lined up and the locking balls in place. What I did was grease the cup on the output shaft to hold the balls in place, and when pressing everything together I held everything up in place with a finger or two - no worries about crushing a finger, it's fairly easy to do and there is enough room to get you're finger out well ahead of time...



    50 - Assembling Outputshaft - 1st gear & center bearing installed.



    51 - Almost assembled Outputshaft & Assembled Coutershaft.

    Just need to put 3rd gear and the 3/4 sychnro hub together and on, and also the speedometer drive gear.



    Still waiting on the new 3/4 shift collar/sleeve/synchro hub...

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    52 - Removing GT-S bellhousing.



    53 - Removed GT-S bellhousing, degreasing.



    54 - Removed SR-5 bellhousing, T-50 from the GT-S swap.



    55 - The car, not driveable unfortunately



    56 - Cleaned bellhousing.


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    57 - Installed Speedo drive_spline gear



    58 - Installed 3-4 Synchro hub_sleeve
    Fairly easy to install - a large enough socket and you can tap it on gently with relative ease if the splines have been cleaned.



    59 - Input shaft _ 4th gear, needle bearings
    I put some synthetic grease to hold the needle bearings in place and to provide some lubrication at idle once the trans is installed.



    60 - Input shaft _ Output shaft assembled
    Really easy to do - hold the input shaft straight up so you don't loose the needle bearings and drop the output down/into place.



    61 - Speedo gear disassembly



    62 - Speedo gear assembly



    63 - Input-Output shafts _ counter gear in case



    64 - Counter gear center bearing, notch lined up
    You have to line up the notch for the center bearing:
    1. It keeps the bearing center bearing centered (where it should be, duh)
    2. The case halves won't go together correctly if its not.



    65 - Case assembly test fit


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    Default Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k ***

    mate thats awsome work there... great stuff...

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    66 - New extension housing end bushing



    67 - Installed Extension Housing



    68 - Shift Stops



    69 - Speedo Gear



    70 - Reverse sensor and check ball



    71 - Shifter Check Balls and Springs



    72 - Installed Bell housing, Shift Fork and Throw Out Bearing



    73 - Assembled Transmission



    74 - Installed Transmission



    75 - Tip,Trick cover shifter cup with tape when installing



    It's FINALLY all done and in - test drives good. I've got to get used to having synchro's that work, I'm trying to force it over and in when it doesn't need to be...

    Andrew

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    Default Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k ***

    Great post. How much are the parts worth?

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    Default Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k ***

    my god this is possibly the greatest guide ever to be posted on toymods
    i have to do exactly this in about 2 months time

    how hard were the parts to buy? would you make a kit up for those who require it and post it over here for a small finders fee?

    top work mate!
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    Default Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k ***

    Quote Originally Posted by Bored?
    Great post. How much are the parts worth?
    Thanks. I couldn't find a post like this and decided to do it.

    At a discount from toyota - between 800-850 US. Damn expensive due to the cost of the 6 bearings I replaced (which probably didn't need to be!) as the trans drove fine, just had a few catches in the shifts and 3rd gear synchro was starting to give me problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by ae86drift
    my god this is possibly the greatest guide ever to be posted on toymods
    i have to do exactly this in about 2 months time

    how hard were the parts to buy? would you make a kit up for those who require it and post it over here for a small finders fee?
    Parts were readily available, and all part #'s except for the extension housing bushing are posted in the 1st post (as I lost the reciept for the part and threw the bag away it came in).
    Last edited by assassin10000; 20-12-2005 at 03:20 AM.

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    Default Re: DIY: Transmission Rebuild *** No 56k ***

    Awesome thread, thanks for all your hard work!

    One problem though... all the pics are down! Would you mind fixing them up? (I know this could take a while )
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