E85 (EFLEX) phased out in the next 12 months

**madrav4** · 22-01-2013, 09:30 AM

Hi guys and girls I'm trying to gather information on people using and needing e85 from caltex outlets I heard through the grapevine and confirmed it today from a caltex sales manager that they are planning to phase out Eflex (E85) from there outlets by the end of the year

Eflex is a great fuel it would be a shame to see it gone

We need to show caltex that its a important to keep it on the market

Who is with me ?

**dnegative** · 22-01-2013, 04:30 PM

Never seen it for sale, based on that, I'm guessing next to nobody uses the stuff hence, why they would drop it.

**madrav4** · 22-01-2013, 05:22 PM

Your telling me you have never heard of.anyone using it or saying you can get it from certain caltex.stores?

**dnegative** · 22-01-2013, 05:36 PM

Never heard of anyone using it that I know personally, I know Caltex and a bunch of other servos (United?) sell it but you cant buy it locally here.
And that's the reason its destined to fail. Doesn't make economic sense to sell a product which the vast majority wont use, you have a hard enough time trying to flog E10 let alone a fuel that most don't know anything about and only works in a few cars.

**knightrous** · 22-01-2013, 05:47 PM

Yep, they seem to screw up their placement of these kinds of products... My local suburb with a population of 25000 has 91, 98 and E10. Yet some small place like Glen Innes sells 100.... WTF.

**madrav4** · 22-01-2013, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by dnegative

Never heard of anyone using it that I know personally, I know Caltex and a bunch of other servos (United?) sell it but you cant buy it locally here.
And that's the reason its destined to fail. Doesn't make economic sense to sell a product which the vast majority wont use, you have a hard enough time trying to flog E10 let alone a fuel that most don't know anything about and only works in a few cars.

you are right its hard to find in the country but the benifits of using it are amazing i personally gained 35 awkw on my rav4 turbo compared to using 98 octane

**slipway** · 22-01-2013, 08:31 PM

ive been planning to get my land cruiser on it once the turbo is on, i have two servo's near me alexhills and capalaba.

**madrav4** · 22-01-2013, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by slipway

ive been planning to get my land cruiser on it once the turbo is on, i have two servo's near me alexhills and capalaba.

its a awesome cheap way to make power and its good for your engine less chance of pinging engine runs cooler bad side it uses more fuel but thats the price you pay for power

**RONA** · 22-01-2013, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by dnegative

Never heard of anyone using it that I know personally, I know Caltex and a bunch of other servos (United?) sell it but you cant buy it locally here.
And that's the reason its destined to fail. Doesn't make economic sense to sell a product which the vast majority wont use, you have a hard enough time trying to flog E10 let alone a fuel that most don't know anything about and only works in a few cars.

The Caltex on the Hume Highway near the cross roads has it and I use it. Awesome stuff, Madrav hope it is just a rumour because plenty of people modding their cars like me to run it. Thought your info is contrary to what I have heard in relation to a larger roll out of it especially across outlets near Brisbane etc. Given the subsidies provided to the producers I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to continue to make it not to mention Holden rolling out more cars ie the V6 are now eflex compatible where it use to only be the V8s.

Best thing it is so cheap $1.10 to $1.20/L at most so even with the lower economy it is well worth it for the power gains.

**trdee** · 22-01-2013, 09:13 PM

E85 certainly is the bizniss
https://www.facebook.com/MartiniRaci...69349296459732

Still planning on running my new engine on E85. Till they start making lots more cars that can actually run on E85 it really is just a cheap race fuel more than anything else at the moment. Niche application...

Will change with time though I'm sure.

**dnegative** · 22-01-2013, 09:32 PM

I don't think its ever going to catch on, just going to be another technology that never caught on.

**RONA** · 22-01-2013, 09:34 PM

In Aus maybe but places like Brazil E70-100 is the norm, it's hardly new we are just late adopters of it. If Bio-mass production of it can be sorted then it is by far the most preferable option of sustainable fuel I'd like to use.

**madrav4** · 22-01-2013, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by RONA

The Caltex on the Hume Highway near the cross roads has it and I use it. Awesome stuff, Madrav hope it is just a rumour because plenty of people modding their cars like me to run it. Thought your info is contrary to what I have heard in relation to a larger roll out of it especially across outlets near Brisbane etc. Given the subsidies provided to the producers I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to continue to make it not to mention Holden rolling out more cars ie the V6 are now eflex compatible where it use to only be the V8s.

Best thing it is so cheap $1.10 to $1.20/L at most so even with the lower economy it is well worth it for the power gains.

RONA i agree i have multiple cars running on e85 i will be spewing when its gone cause it means i need to retune all of them

my sources are very reliable

1 national manager for a company that maintains all caltex sites

2 from the horses mouth a sales manager from caltex direct

sad sad day when it happens

**oldcorollas** · 22-01-2013, 09:51 PM

still available in drums?

**trdee** · 22-01-2013, 09:54 PM

sucrogen makes the E85 barrels that you see people using at race meetings (WTAC etc), not caltex. so i dont see why not.

also united apparently make their E85 from their own ethanol plant according to their website so this ought not affect them either, which is good as the closest servo to me with E85 is a united servo