4A to W Series bellhousing

[stidnam]

Top work! Now I don't have a excuse to procrastinate over starting my conversion

[Sprinterboy]

Wicked cool, looking forward to getting my hands on one

[Bazooka]

I have PM'd everyone that has an order for one of these bellhousings with payment details.

[DOHC20]

hey im down for the next group buy if it goes ahead. i don't mind waiting, gives me a chance to save some more cash. does anyone know if they will fit the 234mm gze fly wheel? see pic below.

[30psi 4agte]

Im sure if you read this thread you would know the answer..

But in short yes they do fit but require some slight mods to fit.

[love ke70]

but but but, the story goes its hard to get a good clamp setup with the biggest clutch, and the other one is better to modify....apparently

[30psi 4agte]

Dont know where you herd that?

When i went from the ge to the GZE fly / clutch setup there was a big difference. More surface area will give you a better bite.

The clamping force is to do with the weight of the pressure plate..... So if you say both the GE and the GZE both have a 1 tone pressure plate then the surface area of the GZE clutch plate will give a better bite.

[love ke70]

is yours a standard clutch/pressure plate?
it was someone saying what they had heard from a good clutch shop, they said the pressure plate design on the big flywheel is awkward to get heavy clampage into.
only heresay though.

[love ke70]

The bigger question is what bellhousing are you going to use as a lot won't take anything bigger than the 212mm one. Fk! My Dellow one didn't even take the 200mm one without clearancing! SPOS!

Any clutch builder I have spoken with (spoken to a few now over the years) say the design of the big 225mm ze one is crap and is hard to build a good clamp force into.

One of the clutch places in Qld does a full custom setup with a new billet steel flywheel and big clutch for a decent price. Can't remeber what they are called but a bloke in Canberra has one and will be running some good power though it shortly. I will find out what they are called, it wasn't Direct Clutch either.

You will be able to have the 212mm built to cope with what you need, just get someone good to do it. You'll be after something better than an off the shelf single plate.

in the ke corolla dedicated chat, couple of pages from the end if you wanna see some more. not trying to start an argument, just posting what i have heard

[Cuzzo]

i also got told this by my clutch place. Only if you wanted to get the standard pressure plate modified to a higher clamping force, its better to use the 4age one, not the gze one.

[30psi 4agte]

Ahh......... i see what you are on about... I too was told about that..... (The GZE pressure plate being hard to get more force out of).When i was looking into my clutch.
The bloke from xtreme said the factory pressure plate a pain in the ass to pull apart too....

Xtreme do make a pressure plate for the GZE from scratch though and it solves the issues of trying to up-rate the std one.


love ke 70 : No agument mate...... just wasnt sure what you were talking about.....Now im on the ball

P.S nothin wrong with an argument its where some of the best ideas come from

[love ke70]

just thought id throw it out there anyway, for people thinking big surface area = the win. there is a little more too it.
but as you say there is a good plate to work with the big clutch, that is spiffy

[stidnam]

So what type of clutch is everyone using?

I currently have the 215mm 4AGE flywheel and the 230mm 4AGZE flywheel and am deciding on which one to use. I will be using this on a 4AGTE that I am aiming for 150kw at the wheels. Getting the niteparts bellhousing so they should both fit.

I have done some ringing around and have gotten the following prices.

Exedy
215mm Organic HD Kit $370 (part number TYK-6932HD)
230mm Organic HD Kit $465 (part number TYK-7532HD) - No warantee on this at all which doesn't inspire confidence in their product

Xtreme
215mm Cushioned Ceramic Kit $650 (part number KTY22006DCBHD)
230mm Organic HD $569 (part number KTY23017HD)
230mm Cushioned Ceramic Kit $883 (part number KTY23017DCBHD)

I'm not really keen to run a puck type clutch as this will be a daily and I sometimes have to contend with stop start peak hour traffic. Leaning towards a cushioned ceramic but as I've only ever driven organic HD clutches I am hesitant on how drivable/livable a cushioned ceramic will be.

So in summary what are you running and how happy are you with it?

[Bazooka]

These are the people that I have received payment from so far;

Dongaz - received
stidnam - received
HiroShiFumi - received
ae86.jens - received
mr2gze - pending

I will keep this list updated as I receive payments from others.

[Dongaz]

Comon guys pay up...I want my bellhousing I know Im impatient but i have good reason, I just had my birthday yesterday so I want another present