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    Only what i say now is quite high boost pressure, ~45 psi. To be as 500+ hp engine. that can be done with quite simple head... 150-170 Cfm flow is enough a lot more with smaller boost and smaller bottom have been pulled out..

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    39PSI not 45

    you are comparing 2tg head with 3tc head is obvious the 2tg is an advantage, but we end up that day reaching 548whp with that car, and a head setup that cost 1/4 the price of a 2tg setup, plus having more reliability and ease of maintenance, ok we are 45 hp shy but hell we are doing it with about $2000 less so thanks but no thanks, also this thread is a bout push rod heads not twin cam (yikes)!

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    Here is one not so good pass from this silver corolla TE72 my friend and partner in these build Casanas in the driver seat, EFI microtech fuel only system ignition is controlled by factory ye72 setup with some MSD help.

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    And here is another customer with a Datsun Sunny 120Y with a 3TC turbo dual webber setup!


    Both of these cars got 3tc heads with the same port!

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    here is the other silver car with 587 also with the same combo at 42psi, i am the one that hold the hood prop to prevent it to slam shut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by metcap View Post
    First off NME308 just wanna say that you're one of my heroes for creating a monster sleeper out of a dead weight 3tc, just puts to shame so many of us thats trying to make some decent power out of a twincam hybrid.



    Ok so you're saying there's no limit to making hp out of a restrictive head/port if I'm able to up the boost? What port work have you done on your 3tc?
    Thanks for the kind words metcap!

    There will always be functional limits to making hp from a restrictive port etc. Pound for pound of boost you will make more hp from a better port. That said as long as you have a compressor which can efficiently pump the lbs/min at the required pressure and can keep the intake charge cool enough you can keep making more power by increasing the boost!

    Water/methanol mix is doing the charge cooling job well enough for me at present.

    My head has no porting. There were a couple of casting ridges and a bump where the EGR port thingys used to come into the exhaust port which were ground off but no more than 5 mins work tops...

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    Quote Originally Posted by toyota1515 View Post
    39PSI not 45

    you are comparing 2tg head with 3tc head is obvious the 2tg is an advantage, but we end up that day reaching 548whp with that car, and a head setup that cost 1/4 the price of a 2tg setup, plus having more reliability and ease of maintenance, ok we are 45 hp shy but hell we are doing it with about $2000 less so thanks but no thanks, also this thread is a bout push rod heads not twin cam (yikes)!
    Im not comparing 2TG to pushrod head, just talk pushrod head.
    You got that twincam idea youre self...
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    Ok so show us what those 593 hp translate to the track in E.T. 1/8 or 1/4 mile times cuz now i do say i dont believe you cuz there is no proof of it at all i did show you dino video, numbers in real time right in the spot not just a paper, and 1/8 of mile times in real time video to prove you that the dino numbers where shy of what the car is really capable off, now the ball is in your side of the park, what you got to show us cuz you been running your mouth and your ??? Super thech theory, flow numbers and formulas but nothing in real down to earth action, in other words,

    Time for you yo show us for real what your mouth is bragging about buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toyota1515 View Post
    Time for you yo show us for real what your mouth is bragging about buddy!
    Mate by reading this thread your the one who's bragging, yeah sure you have showed a few videos of dyno runs (big whoop), but whats so secretive about showing flow charts and other info, there are a few people including myself who want a decent amount of power out a 2TC/3TC. None of us are hellbent on stealing your plans.

    This place is for sharing information and helping others, not coming on here showing a few videos and boasting about how you can get so much HP and not show how you done it. If you gonna keep it up ya might aswell leave

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    plus one for the 3tc head for a turbo motor, so much cheaper and easyer to deal with.
    as other have said the usa guys seem to use the TC head sue to that what they have over there, and they can make them work well.

    early 2tc heads have larger intake ports, not sure if the wall OD is larger? ive never looked into that on the ones i have.

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    im not sure but toyota 1515 might be in a race team, or a engine build shop?
    if hes making big power out of a 3TC he might not be willing to give out all the info due to keeping the edge over another team.

    the 3TCs seem to be a big deal over in the USA

    and in drag racing or any racing for that matter, it can be the little things that can put you out in front or back behind.
    he may also have spent many years and hard work to get a good result, so why should others get this info fo free?

    no wish to add fuel to the fire here, just thinkin out loud haha

    cant wait to get my 3tc turbo back up and running after my new taste of power the other day

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrain View Post
    Mate by reading this thread your the one who's bragging, yeah sure you have showed a few videos of dyno runs (big whoop), but whats so secretive about showing flow charts and other info, there are a few people including myself who want a decent amount of power out a 2TC/3TC. None of us are hellbent on stealing your plans.

    This place is for sharing information and helping others, not coming on here showing a few videos and boasting about how you can get so much HP and not show how you done it. If you gonna keep it up ya might aswell leave
    As hurriacane said i spent many many years to know all the trick plus i do make money out of this, i didnt just show videos, i do tell how its done, but just the basics, thats sharing my friend, is up to you to find out how is done like i do or pay for them, it is a bussiness for me, you dont go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and just ask for the secret recipie just like that right?, But they let you see how they cook the chicken right? It is a bussiness, plain and simple!
    Understand now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    in drag racing or any racing for that matter, it can be the little things that can put you out in front or back behind.
    he may also have spent many years and hard work to get a good result, so why should others get this info fo free?
    Before everyone whips out there dick for a mine is bigger than yours comparison we should all keep a few things in mind. Dan said it pretty well. If you have spent an ass load of time and a shit tin of money developing something that works for you, there is a good chance you are going to want to protect your research.

    Whats important is not to get stuck into each other over the bits left out, but to share what we can so everyone benefits.
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    Thank goodness for you showing up Toyman!

    Truth is mine is kindaembarrasingly small...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheToyman75 View Post

    Whats important is not to get stuck into each other over the bits left out, but to share what we can so everyone benefits.
    totally agree with this.

    as annoying as it can be, i can under stand why some one that makes money for doin somthing is not willing to give out 100% of the info to just any one.



    More importantly did the guy with the original post get the info he was after?

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