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    Hi everyone =)

    Trying to get stuff ready to put in the EMU into my AE111. I've searched around Toymods and google with most people getting results with the Blue but nothing much on the Ultimate in relation to the 20V.

    * Is it possible to use the EMB's Generic or Vehicle Specific harness with the additional supplement harness?
    * Does anyone know the jumper settings for the 20V BT?

    I'll be putting up all my information gathered and the installation + progress in tuning assuming everything works.

    Thanks guys =)
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    Setup/Installation Part A

    Disclaimer - It has worked for me so far as of 08/06 I can't guarantee it will work 100% for you nor can I comment on its effectiveness YET. I highly recommend sitting down with a friend who's actually very well versus with EMB/EMU otherwise you will NEVER get a satisfactory result. Yes, if a Tuner reckons he can wire up and tune an EM cause its like any other ECU, be very aware. EMs are temperament and one wrong thing during installation or tuning and its a nightmare.

    Okay this was installed on an AE111 Blacktop 20V running a Blacktop ECU Manual.

    Trust Parts:
    E-Manage Ultimate Part# - 15500501
    E-Manage Ultimate Suppliment 1.5m Harness Part# - 15901501
    NB: There is a 2.5m Harness Part# - 15901502 if you need longer
    E-Manage Blue AE111 Specific Harness Part# - 15910902

    I was going to try and wire this up myself but confused myself badly so I got my very damn good friend to do this while I played the assistant.

    Jumper Setting - Keep it as Trust Factory Setting so it should be:

    JP1 - Open
    JP2 - Open
    JP3 - Open
    JP4 - Open
    JP5 - Open
    JP6 - Open
    JP7 - 1-2
    JP8 - 1-2
    JP9 - Open
    JP10 - 1-2
    JP11 - Open
    JP12 - Open
    JP13 - Open
    JP14 - Open
    JP15 - 1-2
    JP16 - Open
    JP17 - 1-2
    JP18 - Open
    JP19 - 1-2
    JP20 - 1-2

    Wiring - Forget about it being Plug n Play even with the Specific harness, the Supplement harness or Connector C I believe from memory... It has to be wired into the Spec harness, hope you have a lot of practice at wire stripping and cutting kids.

    NB: Pin Out diagram is looking from the BACK of the plug not the front. Stupid I know but its very easy to confuse yourself thanks to the Japlish translation.

    Reaching the Stock ECU - Fun times ahead for those that worked on AE111s... The way we approached it was to removed the bottom half of the dash (Yes you can thank Toyota's ingenius interior designers for the moduler system) and then remove the stock ECU from that stupid below center console mounting position. This will all your wiring to be preserved nicely, allow you room to work with, relocate the bitch and for me most importantly not get bunched up/bent/creased. Relocate the stock ECU and EMU somewhere nice =)
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    Setup/Installation Part B

    Setup

    Now this is the worst bit... The EMB AE111 Spec harness + the Suppliment Harness has to be wired together to produce essentially an EMU AE111 Spec harness. You have to check the diagrams properly to make the complete harness gents otherwise you'll **** up your car period.

    I'll take shots of what it looks like all wired together...
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    Reserved for Tuning =)
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    Added info, will add photos of the nightmare XD

    Time to sleep and dream about killing some people and scream at the sight of wiring harnesses...
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    Update for everyone XD

    Quote Originally Posted by DreadAngel
    Okay so tuning session over... MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT especially since stock ECU + high comp bottom end = unhappy marriage. The engine's power, torque and response is far beyond comprehension, you'd think you're driving a different car o.O Sounds different too!!!

    Now before you go rushing out to by the EMU etc etc, lemme drive it around for about 2-3wks and see if the mappings get rejected etc etc. On bypass it seems it didn't get rejected so hopefully after tuning it won't too...

    I'll be getting a dyno run to see =)
    I've been driving it since July tuned and the mapping is still here, car idles great like stock and my torque band 2.8k - 6.0k is still phat as ever so EMU for me has worked =)

    Photos to come of the wiring mission...
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    Default Re: E-Manage Ultimate 20V fun times...

    hey can u post a pick up of the wiring cos im doing the same project and need to know to wire the supplemental harness

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    Default Re: E-Manage Ultimate 20V fun times...

    seriously
    sell the fker and buy a haltech or microtech or autronic or mossitech and maybe at last ditch effort an adaptronic
    couple hundred bucks extra spent now will save u a million hairs and probably a couple grand in cash over 10 years

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    Default Re: E-Manage Ultimate 20V fun times...

    Subscribing. I have a EM Ultimate here that I wouldn't mind installing into my AE101 Silvertop Levin.
    It *may* be faulty though, so I have to find a way to test it first..... (Testing parts on the PCB with a multimeter has not found any blown parts so far).

    Keep us updated, I'd like to see how it goes. Also, moar pics!

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