1ggte in ra28

[andrecf]

Hi all.. ok i want to put in my 1976 RA28 Liftback a 1GGTE engine. i read some post here that its the best conversion for these car. I managed to find a engine for a good price and wanted to know if anyone out there does the conversion.

I dont really have the time to do it myself and hope people can point me to someone or a shop who can do it for me in perth.

Cheers

[gmonkey]

Nice work with the ra28 mate. The 1ggte is a nice engine not the best for 28 available but none the less good engine. Best engine in my books is the 1uz v8, as the 6cyl engine are rather long and a bit of a bitch to fit at times compared to the a v8 .

As for finding someone to fit it for you it will cost big $$$ in the end. There is an engine conversion store near my work, its on kirke street in balcatta (up the back corner of the street) "Hi Flow Engine Reconditioning" think they were called. They used to do engine conversions a while back not sure if they still do but worth a shot.

[andrecf]

I did consider the 1uv V8, but i think it might be too front heavy for that little car. I know if High Flow Engines, they did the machining on my 18RG engine a while back...might give them a call and get some prices on fitting the 1ggte

[gmonkey]

weighs not much more, but its also not spaced out over a longer length like a 6cyl is and sits further back than a 6.. more the weight is towards the center of the car the better

also dont worry im doing a 217kg 1jz conversion currently into myn haha a good 40kg on the 1g

[river]

Hi,

The best is an 18R-G for these cars. Not only does it fit easily, you can bore/stroke it out to 2.4litres, and with a nice turbo and good ECM you'll be able to pull over 250rwkw. On an 1100kg car that's plenty powerful to get you into trouble.

I got a worked 18R-GEU, still at 2litre capacity, running a GT25R (pissy little turbo), 700cc injectors, and an Autronics SM4. She pulls 160rwkw and is mad fun and very zippy with no lag - perfect for street use. She runs the stock cams

Also has room in the engine bay to run the air-con. Weight balance is fine, considering it is the engine that was originally put into the 28.

If your driving is mostly for the street then you really need to think if a few hundred kw at the wheels is going to be useful, other than looking good on the dyno.

Finally, you may want to do a search in the forums as there are threads on doing a 1G-GTE conversion into the RA23/28 vehicles.

seeyuzz
river

[timbosaurus]

the main downside to that is the cost.

You can get a complete low-k 1G+W58 for the cost of a GT28 alone. The cost of fitting a 1G is generally a lot less than prepping an RG for boost.

Agree though, money aside, a horn looking 18R-GTE is close to the best

[Kedderz]

I suggest you call tristan at WTFauto in perth they do good work with toyotas, he can advise what you would be up for. I would suggest NO change out of 10k however for a workshop to do this all for you.

[timbosaurus]

true on the figure above.

10k for a great job like you'd expect our of WTF is fine. But I've seen people pay those figures to get a backyard job, and that's really disappointing.

best bet for a 1G is to buy a setup that someone has pulled out of their car, and fit it yourself. Then just do the fuel systems yourself, and pay for someone to finish the exhaust.

[Grega]

agree with kedderz - nothing short of 10k. having done a few conversions now myself, its all the fiddly little bits which end up costing money and, TIME.

on that ; don't be disheartened. the only thing I will say is the 1G is getting a little old(ish) now - still a bloody ripper motor but, i wonder about getting bits and pieces for it......i'd say the same about the 4AG but parts still seem easy to come by.

a 1UZ would be a great motor but its kinda illegal over here in the speed cameras save live and don't raise revenue state

[timbosaurus]

1G is still a surprisingly good package.

Stock, it's pretty tough, although the lubricating system needs attention (high volume sump minimum) if you're going to track-race it.

Come rebuild time, 6cyl's are always going to be exxy (24 valves to re-seat, 6 pistons/rods etc, more journals on crank/cams), and nothing is bargain-basement like it is for eg: SR20.

The good news is that most of those bargain-basement performance parts like stainless manifolds and shin-huan forgies are shithouse, so by spending more money to buy custom 6-boost manifolds, CP pistons, etc will result in a much better package

[river]

Hi,

Yep, not cheap to do a good engine conversion.

Mine was about $17k all up. That included a fully rebuilt (from the ground up) 18R-G with some mods, fuel system and surge tank and pumps, FMIC and GT25R, custom turbo manifold (to avoid the air con compressor), new radiator, thermo fan, SARD 700cc injectors, Autronics SM4 installed and tuned (with idle control and low oil pressure cut off), exhaust system (with high flow cat), all installed and running.

Then there's the necessary auxilliary things. A couple of grand for new lowered suspension and larger sway bars for front and rear. Nice dish wheels with good rubber adds a couple more grand. Add over a grand to get a front brake upgrade with slotted discs.

Add more coin for a tougher gearbox and better clutch. Throw some more dollars for a stronger diff and have it fitted.

At the end of the day you will realise it is a non-trivial exercise to upgrade the engine, and it takes a lot of money when you include the other items to support the extra power.

I've seen sub $10k jobs, and to be blunt, they look like it and perform like it, and not sure how many have been properly engineered (if engineered at all) for roadwaorthy certification.

For me the money was worth it to ensure I got a top package that perfoms as expected, and reliably. Furthermore it is upgradeable. All I need to do is upgrade the turbo, as the rest of the system and the engine build is to take a lot more power. But, I'm loving the current package. While more power would see higher dyno numbers, it comes with lag and other issues associated with more power (from the current package). I'm happy with my fast little bitch just how she is.

Also it was done with an engineer checking the build progress, so when I get my emissions test done the car will be signed off and approved. So, money for peace of mind is also beneficial to me.

seeyuzz
river

[Kedderz]

Whats that saying? "Cheap, Fast, Reliable, Pick two"

[river]

Hi,

I'll take fast and reliable thanks.

Nothing shits me more than an unreliable car... or computer... or TV... or mates, etc.

seeyuzz
river

[Kedderz]

Your best friends with Tom then yeah?

I kid tom your alright!

[tomvale13]

I'll take cheap, and pick two.

That way when one breaks I can use the other one.