4 stud hubs and rotors for GT4?

[RT104GT]

Censored by chief poobah

[MR22ZZ]

I think you will find that they are 4x100 pcd though and possibly corolla/MR2 hub parts.

[MWP]

Question is what hubs and rotors fit and is it illegal to drop back to four studs?

Yes it will be, unless you get an engineer to approve it.

I have a set of wide 16 inch Simmons and Ansen wheels that I could use.

You sure about that??
Its quite unlikely those wheels have a suitable FWD style offset (ie over +30) thats required.

Also of interest is instead of running on their merits
TTE decided to bodgie up their turbos to get 50 or so more HP
They stood out like dogs balls as being faster and earned the wrath of the chief scrutineer
and got disqualified for a whole year and lost all their team competition points scored.

Yes, its common knowledge they cheated with the WRC ST205 car.
... but what has it got to do with 4 stud hubs exactly?
More of your crazy random threads Steve

[Hiro]

I think you will find that they are 4x100 pcd though and possibly corolla/MR2 hub parts.

Could be related to the ST pov-pack setup, which is 4x100

[MR22ZZ]

well there you go... I like new information

[Hiro]

well there you go... I like new information

STs had drum rear-ends though, which I doubt a rally car would have (much less a 4WD one)

[wa5]

[QUOTE=RT104GT;1237006]Checking every still photo clearly show four studs on ordinary steel or OZ alloy wheels not unlike the 1990 camrys (v6).QUOTE]

SV21s were 5 stud...

[thechuckster]

the rally cars had wheels made for them, the studs (tho 4x100) are larger so even if you managed to find those particular compomotives, you'd have to change the stud pattern and have the hubs re-drilled and machined to suit the knurls on larger+longer wheel studs.

No doubt the hubs & shafts were also specific to the WRC model and once they went to the 6-speed box, were very unique to the rally cars.

[RT104GT]

crashed and burned again.

[RT104GT]

[QUOTE=wa5;1237170]

Checking every still photo clearly show four studs on ordinary steel or OZ alloy wheels not unlike the 1990 camrys (v6).QUOTE]

SV21s were 5 stud...

I was actually referring to the similarities in the design of the wheel,

A Flat faced alloy with air vents around the outer rim not UNLIKE
those fitted to the VZV21 import.

But with only photos to show its hard to tell.

As far as FWD cars being somehow different they mostly use Struts
and struts have been around for decades
and there are many wheels lying around that will fit 4 stud Toyota cars.

Including Datsun wheels.

Correct me if Im wrong..

The wheel's offset is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
To determine wheel offset:
Position the wheel on a flat surface and measure its overall width.
Divide the overall width by two, then subtract this result from the backspace value.
Offset = Backspace - (Width/2)
8" wide wheel with 3" backspace has a -24mm offset (deep dish)

As to why they measure rims in inches and offset in mm is curious.

[Hiro]

As far as FWD cars being somehow different they mostly use Struts
and struts have been around for decades
and there are many wheels lying around that will fit 4 stud Toyota cars.

Including Datsun wheels.

Correct me if Im wrong..

The wheel's offset is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel.
To determine wheel offset:
Position the wheel on a flat surface and measure its overall width.
Divide the overall width by two, then subtract this result from the backspace value.
Offset = Backspace - (Width/2)
8" wide wheel with 3" backspace has a -24mm offset (deep dish)

The reason why FWD etc was raised is because as a general rule (not an absolute one), FWD cars tend to run high positive offset (ie +35 to +45) whereas older RWD cars tend to run small positive offset (+5 to +20), thus wheels which were designed to go on an older RWD car (like an old Datsun) are likely to have too low an offset to go on a high-offset car like a FWD Celica, and would "stick out" way too far causing possible issues with guard rubbing and/or wheel bearing loads. However, more moden RWD cars have tended to make the move to higher-positive offset wheels too, so the "RWD = low, FWD = high" general rule no longer really applies for modern cars (and we're talking the last 15-20 years here).

[MWP]

The reason why FWD etc was raised is because as a general rule (not an absolute one), FWD cars tend to run high positive offset (ie +35 to +45) whereas older RWD cars tend to run small positive offset (+5 to +20)....

Yup, sorry Steve, i should have made that clearer.

ST185's require a wheel offset somewhere in the +30 to +40 range (factory is +39 from memory?).
Going any lower than that (especially on a narrow body like yours), means guard rolling will be required.