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    Default Engine Conversion. 2JZ-GE into MS53 Crown

    With the Celica out of the Garage for a little while and Dyno day approaching it seemed like as good a time as any to give the Old Wagon a much needed horsepower increase.

    Kirsty and I got stuck into last night and 3.5 hours later the old girl was rid of the old 4M goodness and ready for me to relocate the brakes and upgrade the steering before the 2J goes in.

    Not much to see yet of course but I'll keep this up to date with the more useful info and pics as we go.
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    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2J-ZGE into MS53 Crown

    I'll land a hand when eva
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    Owner of a MS55 Super Deluxe Crown Sedan

    MA70 is disguise

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2J-ZGE into MS53 Crown

    Yeah i can give you some 'two jay zee no shit!' lovin some time if required.

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2J-ZGE into MS53 Crown

    1200det,

    Mate I do have a crown like in my avatar but its not that one unfortunatly. My MS63 is very very tired. Its the one on the trailer.



    The crown I am putting the 2JZ-GE into is my MS53 Tow car, This one:



    the avatar pic is actually from a sales brochure for the MS63
    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2J-ZGE into MS53 Crown

    I finally managed to get the first round of Pics up tonight. Kirsty downloaded them all off the camera for me today so they can now be found here:

    http://www.toymods.net/~rod/Crowns/5...%20Conversion/

    So far the biggest change has been setting up for the new radiator.



    Its from an MX13 Toyota Crona MK II and is a great fit and a factory 3 core The revised radiator support panel came up really well and the new rad should be able to handle the new engine with or without a couple of turbo's

    The fuel system, brakes, Pwr steering and the engine swap itself. Its all at various preperation stages altho the fuel system is just about in
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    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2J-ZGE into MS53 Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by 1200det
    The crown in your avatar is that the one from Classiccrown , That was a very nicely built vehicle.


    Shit i seen the wrong avatar 55Supras is the one

    Yeah that car is from CC dad will get it finished soon. Not as well built as you would think dad is having to finish alot of stuff off and has had to re do quite a few things.


    Rod. looking good mate, what accelerator pedal is that it looks very similar to the GA60 pedal I'm using. Surge tank looks good though looks nothing like what we talked about.

    why did the rad support have to be cut??

    Love the booster in the r/h inner guard you'll get a few so its not boost statements now me thinks, well i did.

    Are you running VH40 or 44


    Pending how i'm feeling I'll probably come round on sat and supervise the pwr steer etc
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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2JZ-GE into MS53 Crown

    Stitt,

    The accel peddle is from the SC300 soarer halfcut that the engine came out of. it was an easy enough fit and looks like it should be there.

    Booster location works great mate.. Just like you said it would . Its a VF40 booster unit. I could have set it in a little bit further but wanted some room for unsheduled love.

    The rad support panel was cut because I didn't want to remove the whole front panel and this way its an easy access hole should the engine need to come out and in a few times. Dropping the whole front panel off is such a pita.

    The Power steering box went in last night with the modified steering column
    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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    This will be a great conversion Rod.

    I see you used an MX13 radiator like in my Crown. I have not had any issues with overheating using it and two 10" thermo fans. As a side note, one of the Landcruisers has a 4 core radiator of the same dimensions.

    Before you go too far with the conversion, in particular the steering box, you might want to do a quick test fit of the motor. When I dropped the 2JZGE into the MarkII, the standard manifold actually fouled the steering box. I was always going to get a set of extractors so I was pretty unfussed, but this might be something to check before you go too far if you plan on using the standard exhaust manifolds. The 1JZGE exhaust manifold (single piece jobbie like a 5/6/7MGE one) is slightly lower profile and might give you the clearance you need (if you need any).

    Will you be keeping it column shift?

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    Yep watching this one with anticipation Rod Baby! It's always good to let someone else go forth and make the mistakes/hard decisions before you attempt it yourself - I trust you'll be keeping it column auto too, I want details on what works, and what doesn't?!

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2JZ-GE into MS53 Crown

    Clint GT

    I believe that the column shift is going.
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    Soft!
    If you end up wanting to keep it, then I have pics to show you how I did it.

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    GT,

    Thanks for the heads up on the stearing box ! I was going to bug you and Ed on what sort of headers were available actually as I was hopeing to ditch the factory ones for something that works (And fits). If push comes to shove I'll get them made.

    My old girl was already a 5 speed manual guys so its getting the floor shift. Otherwise a column shift is deffinatly prefered so I could put in a front bech seat. I might hit you up for the how to on that later. For now the plan is to fit the MS65 auto centre console ( It had the MS65 manual console in it before and I personally like it allot better than the MS5x series ones)

    Tonight is the test fit so fingers crossed it should all go in ok.
    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2JZ-GE into MS53 Crown

    In the USA, there are a multitude - Xerd and Toyomoto are two that come to mind. They mostly seem to be 6-2-1. Not sure if any are available in Aus.
    The VVTi motor has some beautiful pipes but they stick out even more than the cast manifolds.
    Mine were custom jobbies - tuned length and made to clear the box.
    Last edited by gianttomato; 16-12-2005 at 06:24 PM.

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    Xerd seem to be the most common ones around, get pretty decent write ups and don't cost the earth. I've seen them on the Australian ebay for about $500. Also goto www.supraforums.com & .com.au there are alot of odds and ends for the 2JZ there.

    Anyway as to the benefits of mine, we'll see come Dyno day

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    Sleep is Overrated

    After 2 biggish nights on the old girl the engine and gearbox are actually resting in place on there new mounts. By 1am wed thursday Morning Stitt, Ed, Justin, Mos and I had the gearbox firmly mounted in position and then at 3.55am this morning (Friday) the engine crane came away and against all odds (And Ed's welding ) the engine and gearbox stayed where we wanted it Some minor tweaking and the first major step is done.

    A huge thanks to Mos, Josh, Bigworm and Dav who hooked in for the late night effort to get the engine mounted this side of Xmas

    I'll get some updated pics up into the Gallery soon but for now this is how she sits right now



    I'll hook back into it after Xmas so I can spend the next few days letting Kirsty and the boys remember what I look like.
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    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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