22RE.Why dnt they rev past 5,000rpm.

[CILAchainsaw]

If you're after an engine that likes to rev then I think you've been barking up the wrong tree with your options. Honestly having a fast race car is unlikely to have a lot to do with having an engine that revs high, you're better off with a strong torque and power curve with well matched gearing.

You could look at running a 5S-FE out of a camry or celica. They're plenty common enough and with a bit of head work and decent cams they can spin some decent revs. Better yet drop a 3S-GE head onto the 5S block with some aftermarket cams and it would be a good thing, it'll make good power and rev to 7500rpm+.

...just curious, would that sorta setup fit into a FWD Corolla, like an AE101?

[Hiro]

...just curious, would that sorta setup fit into a FWD Corolla, like an AE101?

You can fit a 3SGE into an AE101, yes. Needs work for mounts etc, but it does physically fit.

[sumfancyname]

i few people have told me beams dont like reving for very long?? is this true.

[Youngy]

i few people have told me beams dont like reving for very long?? is this true.

I would say no

[neal]

I would say no

and here is the proof that it does it all day long "Link"

The car in question belongs to Celica ra45 on this forum. you can read all aout it in his build thread

[Pimpin_1JZ]

Your best bet is a Beams 3SGE 200hp straight up. Can't go wrong.

[briney]

the 2rz looks like a goer. it's 95mm bore and 86 stroke. 2.4 L. they were carbed and in hiaces for a while. maybe hilux too ?

[Hiro]

the 2rz looks like a goer. it's 95mm bore and 86 stroke. 2.4 L. they were carbed and in hiaces for a while. maybe hilux too ?

All RZs are EFI if I recall properly. Unless very early ones were carby, but at least the majority of them were EFI. The early ones were only single-cam too, so not exactly sure why you'd go from one 2.4L low-revving single-cam truck motor to another low-revving single-cam truck motor.

[CILAchainsaw]

So what would be best as a stocker, a 3SGE or a 5SFE out of a Camry/Celica? I'm looking for something I can just drop into an AE101 (if I have to do custom mounts, I don't mind), put an exhuast and cold intake on and just leave it at that. Looking at cost affectiveness, end result etc which would weigh up to be the best option?

[Shifty]

People shitcan them for no good reason. They're actually quite a good motor.

Cylinder head work and revised camshaft specs & timing will make a massive difference, but still you need to keep in mind these are designed as a low-rpm 'grunter' motor not a high rpm 'screamer' and you will always be restricted by things such as the factory bore/stroke & casting limitations.

[Bitsa]

People shitcan them for no good reason. They're actually quite a good motor.

I like mine . Ted from Engnbldr.com has a write up in the following link titled Simple Power Tips for the 22re. I've another 22re in the garage that one day will get the simple Ted treatment.

http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...?Number=820891

[river]

Hi,

I don't understand the requirment to have a high revving screamer, if a lower revving more torquey engine will get you the results you want. I figure the OP wants an engine that will win him races, and it doesn't really matter if it's an engine that develops the "winning" performance at 5,500 rpm or 8,000 rpm.

seeyuzz
river

[RONA]

Agreed, if the engine doesn't rev, can you not just run a taller diff ratio to keep the same wheel speed just at a lower rpm. Acceleration may be reduced a bit but if you have rolling starts? Then this may be already be negated.

[HAVABEER]

is this for proper competition or something you have with your mates?

will any of the 3s series of motors fit? if so should look at tracking down a rwd beams 3s-ge? or even a 3rd gen one (147kw and 132kw respectively)

[sumfancyname]

no it is a proper nation wide class.well at some tracks the straight is very long and at the end of it at some tracks i had my 21r just of 9,000rpm and i cant have a a motor that dsnt rev and runs out of power half way down a straight.but yet i wnat it tourque thru the corner so i cnt realy change the ratio to suit the straight cause then it wnt suit the corner.so if i have a motor that will be torquey but yet can rev as i go down the staright ill be a happy man haha.i have pretty much made up my mind to go 3SGE beams but we havnt yet made the final decision.
These are the things playing on our minds atm
Parts ??? i was thinking gen2 parts wld be fairly close because i have a couple here
Reliable??? well they are a strong motor so i dnt think theyll brake
I can get two of these motors, box ,loom and ecu for $5000