Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 26

Thread: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

  1. #1
    Junior Member Conversion King Drifty Midship's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    北海度
    Posts
    2,691

    Default Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    Got this TB off a mate.
    Geniuses who had put it on his car drilled a hole in the butterfly apparently to get it to idle.
    You can see the hole in the pic below...
    I've chucked it on my car but idle is sitting high at about 1500...
    I've tweaked fuel and timing in my ecu to bring it back to 1350.
    There is no idle screw or any other types of bypass on the TB.
    So my question is what can I use that will be safe to plug up the hole in the butterfly... obviously what ever i put there i don't want to fall out cause next stop is the supercharger...
    Or if anyone knows where i can get another butterfly as a replacement...
    AW11 - 1988 Red ADM 4AGZE conversion +
    MZW11 - 1987 Track car - "Ag-Spec Racing 1" - 1MZ powered AW11
    ST246 - 2002 Caldina GT-Four 'N-Edition'
    MS65 - 1973 Bash Car bash.skyracing.tv/

  2. #2
    Non qualified Domestic Engineer
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    SA
    Posts
    785

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    Bolt, nut a washer either side of the butterfly valve and high strength loctite on the thread.
    Or get another butterfly valve.
    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas
    except for a very few exceptions
    "Don't worry what people think, they don't do it very often."

    Daily: Glorified Taxi (F6 Typhoon). Out Of Action: Twin-charged Adub. Ongoing Nightmare: Over re-engineered (not) Alfa Romeo 75.

  3. #3
    Junior Member Domestic Engineer ill-minded's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    QLD
    Posts
    612

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    solder a thin sheet of brass over it? or even just fill the hole with solder? so long as inlet temps aren't hot enough to weaken/melt the solder, everything should be dandy, no?

    otherwise, as above. not an ideal solution for airflow, but would solve the problem.

  4. #4
    Forum Member 1st year Apprentice
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    QLD
    Posts
    24

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    For fear of sounding like a freak, how about a pop rivet?

  5. #5
    Nay sayer Domestic Engineer Mr Ed's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    ACT
    Posts
    624

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    Pull it out, weld it up, grind it flat. Dont put a bolt/rivet through it FFS, theres a reason theyre milled to a nice flat surface.
    I used to eat alot of natural foods. That was until I learned that most people died of natural causes.

  6. #6
    Junior Member Automotive Encyclopaedia
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    wa
    Posts
    1,174

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    what TB is it? size? if it's 65mm then chances are a ford butterfly will fit. form any of their 4L 6cyl motors.

  7. #7
    Junior Member Automotive Encyclopaedia
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Vic
    Posts
    890

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    I second the remove & weld, brazing it should work well ..

  8. #8
    Junior Member Conversion King Drifty Midship's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    北海度
    Posts
    2,691

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    thanks for the input...
    Think I will go for the braze option.
    Other ideas I had was metal mend or fibreglass or was thinking solder also.
    TB is 70mm
    AW11 - 1988 Red ADM 4AGZE conversion +
    MZW11 - 1987 Track car - "Ag-Spec Racing 1" - 1MZ powered AW11
    ST246 - 2002 Caldina GT-Four 'N-Edition'
    MS65 - 1973 Bash Car bash.skyracing.tv/

  9. #9
    Junior Member Domestic Engineer RobertoX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Victoria
    Posts
    511

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    Best choice is to fill in properly with weld but if you were going to use a screw/bolt, tap the hole, screw it in with loctite and then stake the end on the bottom of the bolt with a chisel so it can't physically be unscrewed (like how they do with the bolts holding the plate to the throttle shaft)
    I've had a one of the shaft bolts come out and rattle around one of the cylinders for a bit, not nice for the motor :/

    Anyway, it looks like you went for the right choice in the end

  10. #10
    Hopefully soon a 5S-GTE Chief Engine Builder MWP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    South Australia
    Posts
    4,565

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    Solder it up.
    Normal soft electronics solder would do the job, doesnt need to be strong.

  11. #11
    dont work in my backyard Domestic Engineer pandaah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    648

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    i wouldnt put too much heat into it, there not that strong of a metal and even if it goes out of shape slightly it wont seal in the throttle body anymore...

    bolt and nut with a nyloc nut will do the job perfect, no mess, no heat.. perfect

  12. #12
    Junior Member Domestic Engineer ill-minded's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    QLD
    Posts
    612

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    also, if you're gonna solder it, i'd grab a countersink bit (or even a larger drill bit) and just run a chamfer around the edge so the solder would form a lip over the edge of the hole for extra reassurance that it doesn't become dislodged and get eaten by the engine.

  13. #13
    Cressidaspert Carport Converter andrew_mx83's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Victoria
    Posts
    1,650

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    +3 for brazing

    i wouldnt trust solder...
    There is no substitute for PUBIC inches

    Never late in an x8

  14. #14
    Junior Member Too Much Toyota oldcorollas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    sydney
    Posts
    12,496

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Ed View Post
    Pull it out, weld it up, grind it flat. Dont put a bolt/rivet through it FFS, theres a reason theyre milled to a nice flat surface.
    LOL at weld....
    milled? they are cut from sheet...

    back from holiday eh ed? or is it school holidays?
    "I'm a Teaspoon, not a mechanic"
    "There is hardly anything in the world that a man can not make a little worse and sell a little cheaper" - John Ruskin (1819 - 1900)

    AU$TRALIA... come and stay and PAY and PAY!!! The moral high horse of the world!

  15. #15
    Forum Member 1st year Apprentice
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    tasmania
    Posts
    24

    Default Re: Fixing a hole in TB butterfly

    Araldite maybe?

Similar Threads

  1. AE82, AE92 and AE101 Brake Upgrade Guide
    By The Witzl in forum FAQ
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 09-05-2020, 08:08 PM
  2. Sams MA61 7MGTE Conversion Guide
    By Negative Boost in forum Engine & Driveline Conversions
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 08-07-2015, 12:12 AM
  3. how to isolate the gearstick hole in RWD engine conversions
    By kewp in forum Tech and Conversions
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-12-2009, 03:17 PM
  4. Best way to fix stuffed aluminium threaded sensor hole
    By stidnam in forum Tech and Conversions
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 31-10-2009, 08:43 AM
  5. Fixing hole in car floor
    By wagonist in forum Tech and Conversions
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 10-11-2007, 11:48 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •