Ae86 with 3S-GE, supercharging?

[Pyr0s]

Hi all. IN the next month hopefully, i'm buying an AE86 with a 3S-GE conversion. There is 2 such cars with this conversion. One has a 6spd manual and is running stock computer. The other is a 5spd, running a microtech and was dynoed at 205rwhp. It also won stadium drift recently.

My question is, If I buy either one, (which do you think is the better, i won't be drifting, just a cheap/fun daily How easy would it be to supercharge...

I know I could go turbo, But I'm not keen on turbos cause of maintenance/heat etc. All i'd be thinking of running out of the charger is 5/6psi on the stock motor, no mods, no intercooler.

I'm assuming the stock 3s will handle said boost?

but yer
thoughts?

[punkture]

personally, if you look through the threads i found that everyone uses 4agze's when turboing them, due to the already performed strengthened blocks etc, that being said i reckon at5-6psi you'd be okay, but wouldn't leave much wiggle room for performance, 3sgte on the other hand would leave you alot id guess..

[Pyr0s]

Can't legally put a 3s-gte in, in QLD. I'm talking like an SC12 supercharger...

[roadsailing]

Can't legally put a 3s-gte in, in QLD. I'm talking like an SC12 supercharger...

SC12 will be too small, SC14 (off 1GGZE) would be better as it's off a 2 litre engine, but still a bit small as an NA 3SGE makes more power than a 1GGE. if you under-drive it it should be OK.

I had a quick look at the QLD regs and they referred to the NCOP unless i missed something.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa.../vsb_ncop.aspx

according to this and assuming a sprinter weighs 900kg you can put a turbo 2.475 litre enigne in. I'd be surprised if they had different rules for capacities of turbo and supercharged engines.

you know you will need to retune the microtech or buy an ECU for the stock management one right? and why wouldnt you run an intercooler?

[Pyr0s]

Oh I thought the Ae86s were 760kgs... The one i'm looking at is stripped out so maybe that's where I read it haha. Actually forget about the intercooler part, I'm thinking like a retard, roots superchargers are easy to cool, I was in my 1uz mind of bolting it on top haha. Ta

[Hiro]

Can't legally put a 3s-gte in, in QLD. I'm talking like an SC12 supercharger...

If a 3SGTE is illegal, then a supercharged 3SGE would be too.....the manner of forced induction doesn't matter.

[twentyEight]

Oh I thought the Ae86s were 760kgs... The one i'm looking at is stripped out so maybe that's where I read it haha.

Lol, AE86 weighs a lot more than 760kg... A KE20 weighs 740kg (IIRC), but an AE86 weighs 960kg (listed as 970kg in some sources). And if they stripped out 200kgs then I want them to come do it to my Celica!

On a serious note, the 6 speed 3S-GE powered AE86, is that a Beams 3s in it?

If so, then go the Beams one without question. Beams, set of Blacktop 4A Quads on adapter (made by Celica RA45) and you can get 180rwkw (240rwhp, and roughly 300bhp) out of it just like Glenn did - http://www.toymods.org.au/forums/showthread.php?t=40381

[Pyr0s]

yeah BEAMS

same with the 5spd drift one...

[Sam_Q]

twentyeight: they are 960 as you say but are 980 with the air con and electric sunroof.

Pyros: can I suggest you drive this car for a while before considering such an upgrade, a Beams conversion in an ae86 is a pretty serious package.

[Pyr0s]

Sam_Q: what do you mean? You saying it's quick?

my previous car list:
1st car - R31 skyline - standard Rb30 w/ 5spd and 4.11 diff
2nd car - Toyota Celsior - Stock standard
3rd car - Subaru Liberty with jap wrx conversion, TD05, 4.11 manual + LSD
4th car - Toyota Cressida MX73, 1uz conversion, 5spd manual, standalone Wolf ECU, 4.11 Trutrac LSD
current car - R31 Skyline w/ RB25det conversion, auto, LSD

I think i'll be fine with a 4cylinder...

I doubt whether it will have more pull than the cressy... but if it does, awesome that's what i'm looking for.

I think i'll go with the stock ecu 6spd and put a powerfc on it later =]

[Sam_Q]

basicly yes. Now in my tottaly uneducted opinion I would think in 0-100 it would be faster than all those, excluding the subbie as I don't know crap about them.

Nice line-up though..

[twentyEight]

basicly yes. Now in my tottaly uneducted opinion I would think in 0-100 it would be faster than all those, excluding the subbie

Agreed, with a power to weight ratio of over 200hp per tonne (closer to 210-215), it'll be much quicker than all of those listed bar the scooby-doo. (though the Liberty is heavier, so may be similar in power to weight)

[RONA]

Could be an old liberty ie like an RS and they were pretty light.

[Pyr0s]

Far out. The scubaru was like the slowest out of those cars... no torque till boost. I hate boxers, slow as. The Cressida kicked ass off the line, and the 31 is quicker than it, as far as 0-100, only just though.

you know 1uz = 200kw quad cam all alloy Lexus V8 right? + WOLF ecu, minus 400kgs from a celsior/soarer, with a 5spd box, AND a 4.11 diff?

but anyways enough about that. That's awesome, Can't wait for the beams

[X kyle X]

you know 1uz = 200kw quad cam all alloy Lexus V8 right? + WOLF ecu, minus 400kgs from a celsior/soarer, with a 5spd box, AND a 4.11 diff?

but anyways enough about that. That's awesome, Can't wait for the beams

Your asking the toymods guys that?

That's like asking what H20 is. Lol.