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    Default Toyota VVTi Setups

    There is much conjecture about the different setups. We've discussed putting this thread up as a definitive source. So here it is. I can collate any general information here and I'll have a post for each engine to follow. Once we've argued it here enough, I might copy it into Wikipedia so it's available for everyone.

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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    1UZFE VVTi
    Variable Cams
    Inlet
    Actuation

    Factory Sensors
    Cam Sync -
    Fixed single tooth on left bank inlet camshaft. The sync pulse is fixed at 90 degrees BTDC and does not move with respect to crank.
    Crank Trigger -
    36 minus 2
    Cam Position Sensors -
    Left and right intake cams have a 3 lobe trigger, with odd 'Y' oriented lobe positions. One lobe positioned at 90deg and two at 135 (insert pic as that's not clear). Passenger side bank contains cylinder #1 and trails the drivers side by 90 degrees.

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    -Why 3 oddly arranged lobes are required to accurately position the cam with respect to a TDC trigger. as opposed to say 3 evenly spaced lobes, or even just one single lobe. why three (when theres already a cam sync on the front of the camshaft) and why oddly spaced?
    Crank trigger and Cam Sync are all that's required to run the engine and provide full cycle timing for fully sequential injection and ignition events.



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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    3SGE BEAMS (Gen 5)
    Variable Cams
    Inlet, Exhaust
    Actuation

    Factory Sensors
    Cam Sync -
    None
    Crank Trigger -
    36 minus 2
    Cam Position Sensors -
    4-1 on the back of both cams but in different locations to work out where No1 tdc is. (Locations to be measured and confirmed)


    Note: both these pickups on the cams are variable to the crank therefore the ecu relies solely on the 36-2 to adjust the cam positions accordingly.
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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    This is for the 1ZZFE/2ZZGE setups.

    1ZZFE
    Variable Cams

    Actuation

    Factory Sensors
    Cam Sync -

    Crank Trigger -

    Cam Position Sensors -


    2ZZGE
    Variable Cams

    Actuation

    Factory Sensors
    Cam Sync -

    Crank Trigger -

    Cam Position Sensors -

    Notes
    Quote Originally Posted by big_zop
    I have found a general document on the development of the 2ZZ. It adopts a variable valve timing and lift system called VVTL-i. It operates under a single change over point between a low and high lift cam at 6000rpm, with the intake cam timing able to be continuously varied. Further details can be found in the document below (doesnt allow direct linking so download the one with the same title).
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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    JZ
    Variable Cams

    Actuation

    Factory Sensors
    Cam Sync -

    Crank Trigger -

    Cam Position Sensors -
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    MZ
    Variable Cams

    Actuation

    Factory Sensors
    Cam Sync -

    Crank Trigger -

    Cam Position Sensors -
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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    1GZFE
    Variable Cams
    Inlet
    Actuation

    Factory Sensors
    Cam Sync -
    None (to be confirmed)
    Crank Trigger -
    36 minus 2 (to be confirmed)
    Cam Position Sensors -
    Three lobe trigger on the back of the inlet cam. Evenly spaced layout with lobes at 120-120-120. (to be confirmed)
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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    UR engines
    Variable Cams

    Actuation

    Factory Sensors
    Cam Sync -

    Crank Trigger -

    Cam Position Sensors -
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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    this is for me arguing with glenn
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    this is for me arguing with rod
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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    This is for that unknown engine (apparently) the VVTi 1JZ
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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    1GFE
    Variable Cams

    Actuation

    Factory Sensors
    Cam Sync -

    Crank Trigger -

    Cam Position Sensors -
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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    ok, ill start:

    1uz vvti setup:

    cam sync is fixed single tooth on left bank inlet camshaft. The Sync pulse is fixed at 90 degrees BTDC and does not move with respect to the crank

    crank trigger is 36 minus 2

    cam position - left and right intake cams have a 3 lobe trigger, with odd 'Y' oriented lobe positions (basically x1 90deg and x2 135deg, also could be thought of as 8 minus 5). The Passenger Side bank contains cylinder number one and trails the Driver's side cam by 90 degrees

    crank trigger and cam sync are all thats required to run the engine and provide full cycle timing for fully sequential injection and ignition events

    the question is - why 3 oddly arranged lobes are required to accurately position the cam with respect to a TDC trigger. as opposed to say 3 evenly spaced lobes, or even just one single lobe. why three (when theres already a cam sync on the front of the camshaft) and why oddly spaced?

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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    Quote Originally Posted by whatthe?
    This is for that unknown engine (apparently) the VVTi 1JZ
    Haha. give us a break princess. I'm on a couch on my phone Assuming it's the same as the 2JZ so added above. If i'm incorrect in that assumption let me know
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    Default Re: Toyota VVTi Setups

    Quote Originally Posted by JustCallMeOrlando
    Haha. give us a break princess. I'm on a couch on my phone Assuming it's the same as the 2JZ so added above. If i'm incorrect in that assumption let me know
    Depends on the scope of information to be shared. Whole engine or solely the VVTi function?

    The VVTi 1J has a higher compression ratio than the twin turbo 1J or either VVTi or non VVTi 2JZGTE (9:1 vs 8.5:1). It's also a ceramic wheeled, ball bearing (reportedly) single turbo engine wheas all other JZ turbos use twins

    I'll have to do some research on the actual VVTi setups to see if they differ greatly though
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