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    Default Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    hey

    i just change my MX83's rear struts to the supra ones, since i put them in i get a bad knocking when the RHR corner gets alot of extension of compression, i thought it might just be the spring re-seating itself, but its been over a week and its only marginally better.

    Its not an awesome sound at all
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    I have exactly the same issue.
    Both sides.

    Ive removed and swapped out both sides (shocks and springs), swapped springs, same deal. Tightened everything up to buggery. Same deal.

    I 'think' its the coils binding on the rubber tophats under compression.

    I.e. as the springs compress the top the of spring tries to rotate about due to the extra length, and the sound/knocking is the result of when the slip occurs between the spring and the tophat.

    Im going so compress the springs and jam some grease/lube and see what happens.

    Otherwise I'm totally stumped too

    BTW, using KYB Supra shocks and Kings Lowered MX83 Springs
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    yeh, same combo here, old springs tho, no issues with old std shocks, cept they were fucke

    i will try to get up under it this weekend and do that, when do you plan to do it?
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    Weekend. Plan to also have another look too, as its been a good 2-3months installed, so I should be easily able to see wear points, etc.

    Fkn pain in the ass though. Get bagged every time work mates are in the car with me...
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    I had the same problem, I think you will find it is the bump stops flapping about, sikaflex them up FTW

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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    it happens mostly on big extension, and its a knock u can feel. definately not bump stops
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    Quote Originally Posted by seamonsta
    I had the same problem, I think you will find it is the bump stops flapping about, sikaflex them up FTW
    Nope, not that. First thing I tried.

    Its definitely to do with the springs. You can hear the vibration when the 'clunk' occurs.

    Sound gets worse (more frequent) when the car is loaded up with weight too, which again points to springs/compression.
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    I have the same KYB/Kings combo and have no problem at all, even towing a trailer. maybe there are other bushes in the suspension that are shot? Sway bar mounts (the plastic bits) have been known to break as well, check them.
    Or, maybe the car is haunted!!! OMG call the ghost whisperer ASAP.

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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    Hi,

    Vote +1 for checking your sway bar to lower control arm connection points.

    When the nuts on the plastic link loosen it can make a hell of a clunking sound. And noticing it more when your suspension is loaded also makes sense as this will unload the sway bar and allow the link to flog around. It happened to me when I changed the rear struts over in my MX83. Initially I thought I had broken a diff mount, was pretty happy to find out it was just a loose nut.

    Just something to check while you are under there

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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    Good idea Pete.

    Will check it out.
    Maybe even tonight
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    I know you guys are certain it is from the rear, but if you have changed the fronts to the RAV4/Kings combo and not put a big enough spacer under the shock inside the tube you will also get a knock when the shock moves up and down, just a thought cause i had to remove one of mine and redo it with a bigger spacer.

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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    Update.

    Had a look over the weekend. Everything is tight, including swaybars and linkages.
    I however, forgot to bring spring compressors so could not do what I had intended.
    I still think its the likely culprit.

    And the Sound if def. coming from the rears

    Any luck DOHC?
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    nah, i was at the drags all weekend

    glad its not swaybar links, $120 each genuine only
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    Serious.. Fuck that.
    I'd make them myself from scrap steel.
    Stronger and free ;p
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    Default Re: Knocking in rear suspension after changing to new struts

    Right, problem SOLVED.

    It was what I expected. The coils bind with the rubber on the tophats and when the spring compresses quickly it moves on the rubber give the 'clung' sound.

    So, just compress the springs down, jam in some grease, and voila, problem gone ;p
    No idea how long the grease will last, but can always reapply
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