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    Default R154 stock clutch capabilities

    ive got a 1JZ cressida, and an R154 ready for a conversion, when its back i think power will be hovering around 250wkw on stock turbos

    i need a clutch for the job, so far as i can tell via searching;
    ORC and OS Giken make some nice clutches, but require push/pull converters which isnt so bad cos they come with em? used for about 300wkw and up

    stock clutches not so bad, no need for push/pull converters obviously - i dunno what power these are good for though

    will i be right with a stock clutch? its supposed to be a daily () and im not really keen on hitting any tracks (its already got a bit of an identity crisis and its not running yet heh) or will i need to get into a nice single plate ORC clutch or something?

    on the topic too i spose, does anyone make slightly better-than-factory-spec clutches that retain the original pull clutch engagement?
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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    jim berry hes your man he can do it cuase noone can!

    no seriously call jim berry in QLD best man ever to build you a clutch to suit you.
    13.39sec @ 110.86mph.
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    when are people going to admit to the fact that torsens are totally gay for serious trackwork?

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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    sounds good mate if i have to i'll have a nice chat with him
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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    stock clutch will hold 250kw if its in good nick but id suggest getting an upgraded pressure plate if you want to keep with organic discs for daily driver usage.
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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    +1 on the uprated pressure plate with organic disk.

    Holds really well with my 225RWKW ( ~550nm ) and is only a touch heavier in pedal effort compared to stock. Has a lot more positive feel and feedback to it to when driving at Winton or through the hills.

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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    awesome, sounds alright

    just prefer to keep things as civil and easy as i can for this one

    thanks chaps
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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    I recently fried the stock r154 clutch, lasted about 12months after conversion (this is on stock boost pulling 200odd).

    have now gone exedy HD for $600 and it feels so much tighter. hopefully this will last longer.

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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    ah man

    still using standard pull clutch for the exedy?
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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    I think if you managed to fry the clutch in such a short time you need to recheck your Driving Habits ..

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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary
    ah man

    still using standard pull clutch for the exedy?
    yeah still pull clutch to suit.

    and i think the stock one wore out was due to the occasional kick i was giving it

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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    Jim Berry Clutch is the way to go.

    I've just installed mine in my TT 300rwkw setup and my power goal will be 400-450rwkw with a T51 very soon. The JB clutches are a carbotic button with an upgraded pressure plate. For a button clutch, they are very streetable and you can slip them at low rpm for hill take offs and general every day driving.

    They are around $900-1000 change over and turn around is about 2 weeks. I have installed 4 of these clutches so far in my own cars and in my friends and they are just great!

    To reline the clutch and replace the buttons when they wear out during its service life - it will cost about 250 - cheap!

    ALWAYS do the following when you do a clutch job on a car:
    Replace Rear Main seal - $50
    Replace Gearbox Front Seal - $20
    Replace Thrust Bearing - $25 (or JB includes this in the price if you change over the setup)
    Replace flywheel bolts - $70 (ARP make 4AGE flywheel bolts that fit the 1JZ perfectly and are cheaper than toyota OEM and 100% reusable!)
    Use Thread sealer on Gearbox Front Bearing Retainer and Flywheel bolts.

    Jim Berry contact details:
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    Give him a call to chat about your needs!

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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    i'm running an exedy heavy duty button, no cushioning
    TYK-6571HDB
    i know, mines 7mgte/r154 but the clutches are interchangeable. handles daily duties nicely, not noticeably heavier than stock. will handle a fair whack of abuse, but can still slip enough to take off smoothly in the wet...

    mike
    Now - 1988 GX81 Mark II- 7MGTE, GT35R, TiAL 44m, Microtech, 550cc injectors, R154, Xtreme clutch, LSD.... Low boost tune done = 330rwhp@1 BAR...
    Then - 1989 MX83 - The big scrap heap in the sky...

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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    sorry chaps, i was under the impression it was hard to find clutches that were pull type, and you had to go push to get a good one. obviously incorrect

    dropped into parts store today for a chat, TYK6571HD, for $825 - clutch kit though including throwout, alignment tool etc

    squish did you pay 600 for the plate and clutch disc or was it a full kit?
    twiztd what was yours worth?
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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    yeah i got the full exedy TYK6571HD kit. got it though an ABS. was the cheapest in my area but i had to wait for a week or so for it to come from interstate. had to do a bit of calling around aswell to get a good price.

    edit: just checked receipt and it was actually $650 not 600
    Last edited by squish_m8; 30-06-2009 at 02:03 PM.

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    Default Re: R154 stock clutch capabilities

    awesome thanks mate

    checked in at a few places today;

    repco
    "about 1300 mate, yeah"
    "damnnn you sure? this part number ja?"
    "yeeep bout 1300, says on my screen"

    bursons
    "for you, 825"
    "sweet man thanks, ill get cash organised"

    supercheap
    "umm... aa..abbouutt... eer.. $927"
    "no dramas thanks bud"

    ABS
    "yeah ill do ya for 850"
    "not a bad price, thanks man, ill see how it goes"

    independent place
    "you there?"
    "yep"
    "that ones for 607"
    "woa"

    thats as far as he's told me, i havent got it yet so ill confirm the place when ive got the clutch kit in my hands for 607

    weird hey, from 1300 to 607?!
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