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    hey quick question, does anyone know what Gen 3SGE it was that was found in convertible ST184's and JDM st184's??
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    Default Re: which Gen 3S??

    gen 2 3sge. same as the early mr2 Sw20's

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    Default Re: which Gen 3S??

    None.

    They were all found in ST182s
    AE102 - Charlene the Old Faithful, Reborn
    JZZ30 - Lexi the Spacecruiser, 1JZGTE>>3SGE. 200rwkw, hunting Skylines and n00bs in SS Commodores
    ST162 - Charlie the non-ghey Celica, 3SGE>>4AGE. GOOOOOOOONE
    AE82 - Rosie the Bitsa from Hell, 70.8kw atw. Has been converted into garage space and money at last
    KE55 - Billie the Beast, sadly missed

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    Default Re: which Gen 3S??

    heh heh heh
    smartass
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    Default Re: which Gen 3S??

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiro
    None.

    They were all found in ST182s

    you mean 162s?
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    werent 182's the JDM 2L ones?? or were they the ones with the 7AFE that we never got here, wow they would be a gutless peice of crap
    my RA23 http://www.toymods.org.au/forums/showthread.php?t=57060&page=2"]
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    Default Re: which Gen 3S??

    they had a few variants but for your question gen2 3sge is what ur after

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    thanks all!! now i know what im shopping for
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    well 3rd gens are a lot better (pending on how much you want to spend on the entire car)......
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    im after a straight swap, what i wanted to do was buy a 3SGE halfcut, but for the sake of asking does a 3rd Gen go straight in?? i spose if it has the same mounting points no real reason it shouldnt hey?
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    mounting points are the same, ecu and wiring will be diff for both, but since the xT18x chassis use an intergrated engine and chassis loom and the xT20x series use seperate looms for engine and chassis then gettin a 182 would be slightly easier.

    or you could get an aftermarket ecu then just decide which engine you would rather.
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    hmmm, ultimatly id rather the 3rd gen if its better, but the reason for this is it looks as tohugh ill need to turf my 5SFE in very near future, so funds are very limited, so i guess its the 2nd gen. what exactly is the difference between the 2?? if its nothing huge, i wonder if it would be possible to take whatever it is that makes the 3rd gen better and put it on a 2nd gen??
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    Default Re: which Gen 3S??

    head mostly.

    small port insted of big port
    no tvis
    slightly more aggressive cams in lift and duration
    shim under bucket valve actuation insted of shim over like gen2.

    not sure if the gen 3 NA heads have 3 angle cut stainless valves like the gen 3 3sgte but i would assume so.
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    Default Re: which Gen 3S??

    Quote Originally Posted by Kedderz
    you mean 162s?
    He's asking about JDM ST18xs
    Why someone would put a GenI ST162-sourced GE into a ST184 I don't know...
    AE102 - Charlene the Old Faithful, Reborn
    JZZ30 - Lexi the Spacecruiser, 1JZGTE>>3SGE. 200rwkw, hunting Skylines and n00bs in SS Commodores
    ST162 - Charlie the non-ghey Celica, 3SGE>>4AGE. GOOOOOOOONE
    AE82 - Rosie the Bitsa from Hell, 70.8kw atw. Has been converted into garage space and money at last
    KE55 - Billie the Beast, sadly missed

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