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    Default LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    OK,

    First off I'm note really sure on the proper description of what I'm after, perhaps someone can help me out there...

    Anyway I'm looking for info in how to set myself up with a torch so that I can run a flame off an LPG bottle...

    I'd be intending to use it to heat metal in order to bend it, i.e. gearbox shifters

    CIG weld seem to sell a kit? (Link to PDF)
    http://www.thermadyne.com/cigweld/co...70/Itemid,272/

    Any thoughts or opinions welcome

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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    Don't see why it wouldnt work, should give out enough heat to bend shifters
    Worst case might just need an extra shove with a big hammer to do so

    Last I checked LPG wasnt too far off the energy of acetylene

    Acetylene roughly 50MJ/kg
    LPG ~ 46MJ/kg

    Someone correct me if I'm way off the mark

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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    Yep, know it can be done.

    One of my mates dads has an LPG/Air set, and I've gotten help off him in the past to bend a shifter no dramas Will hit him up for more info next I talk to him...

    In the mean time! There is Toymods!

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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    LPG plus oxygen is definitely hot enough....
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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    yeh,

    this is the setup i use.

    cuts anything and heats fine.

    you cant weld with it as easy as acety.


    bonus of this setup is you can use BBQ LPG bottles.
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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    Quote Originally Posted by brett_celicacoupe
    yeh,

    this is the setup i use.

    cuts anything and heats fine.

    you cant weld with it as easy as acety.


    bonus of this setup is you can use BBQ LPG bottles.
    Supply more info!

    Quote Originally Posted by brett_celicacoupe
    this is the setup i use.
    Tells me sweet FA!



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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    fwiw: Mick's dad uses LPG instead of Oxy - he uses O2 not plain air so he can braze/weld/cut.
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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    i know the telstra techs used LPG cylinders with a special torch for melting heat shrink. not sure what sort of torch/burner it is though...

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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    LPG/Oxy combo is used here at onesteel for flame cutting purposes all the time.

    one safety warning though; LPG is heavier than air and hence will sit in the bottom of cellars, inspection pits etc. if there is a leak.
    Probably not that much of an issue for home use but always good to keep in mind.

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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    Also need to make sure you get proper regulators, hoses and fittings for LPG.

    i sell them at work, and the hoses have a much higher pressure rating than acetylene.

    up to 3 times higher or more... from memory i could be wrong, but it is higher.

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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    dont forget flash back arrestors also.

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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    Yeah, what's the go with flash back arrestors ... I've been told I should really have one on my oxy (which I dont)

    I don't like the idea of an acetylene bottle exploding anywhere near me :-)
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    Default Re: LPG/Air substitution for Oxy/Acetylene

    if you get a fire or burnback in the torch it stops it going back to the bottle, you should have 2 at the end of your torch, one for oxy and the other acet, or whatever your using, and one for each gauge, and they are two different types for the gauge and the torch, for example you cant put the the arresters from the guage onto the end of your torch and vise versa
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