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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    The daewoo Lanos coil packs usually have built in ignitors, but not all. Make sure its got the alloy plate on the back, thats the heat sink for the ignitors.
    They have pins for the spark plug leads, you can squash down normal leads to fit or get custom leads or use Daewoo leads.
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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    Peter, the 1zz-fe (and 1nz-fe) coils are great under boost.

    I had them on my 3s-gte with 208rwkw. They will happily handle 300kw.
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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    I have a gen 2 3S-GTE with 1ZZ COPs. I used the kit offered by 'RacerX' in the US (which includes an adapter plate that goes on top of the cam cover).
    I'm making 353rwkw at 31psi of boost on E85, and my 1ZZ coils have have never let me down.
    1990 SW20 MR2 with '5S-GTE'.
    418rwkw @ 32psi of boost on E85.
    289rwkw @ 20psi of boost on 98 RON.

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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    what dwell time you running on them rob? I've killed two 1ZZ coils now at 3ms dwell, on wasted spark, my mate also killed two, now dialled back to 2.5ms and seem to be ok for the moment, but he hasn't really put many kms on it yet.
    1988 AW11 9A-GTE - project #1 | 1984 MA61 1JZ-GTE - project #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by trdee View Post
    what dwell time you running on them rob? I've killed two 1ZZ coils now at 3ms dwell, on wasted spark, my mate also killed two, now dialled back to 2.5ms and seem to be ok for the moment, but he hasn't really put many kms on it yet.
    I think mine are at 3ms dwell, but I can't remember if I ever reduced it. I'll check my ECU tune file later.
    I'm running full sequential ignition, so that could be making the difference in longevity.
    1990 SW20 MR2 with '5S-GTE'.
    418rwkw @ 32psi of boost on E85.
    289rwkw @ 20psi of boost on 98 RON.

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    yeah i'll be going full sequential on the next setup as i suspect it may not be helping things as well..
    1988 AW11 9A-GTE - project #1 | 1984 MA61 1JZ-GTE - project #2
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    .....and the within first laps everything that made the AW11 great hit Rex as if the 'Gods of driving fun' had all Jizzed on his face.....
    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8 View Post
    Mono blocs mate....as close to yours as a Ferrari is to a Fiesta

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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    i think the aftermarket chinese sheit 1zz type coils are the ones that play up
    ive seen a 1j with these coils on the dyno and it stuffed up 2 or 3 coils and when we pulled them out they looked cheapish
    so we got some 2nd hand original ones from a camry I think and was able to dyno it more

    these days we just fit ls1 ls2 coils to everything

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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    28 and rob k thanks for that info it will surely help me when i get around to putting the car together
    Cheers, Peter
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    Quote Originally Posted by dumbass View Post
    i think the aftermarket chinese sheit 1zz type coils are the ones that play up
    ive seen a 1j with these coils on the dyno and it stuffed up 2 or 3 coils and when we pulled them out they looked cheapish
    so we got some 2nd hand original ones from a camry I think and was able to dyno it more

    these days we just fit ls1 ls2 coils to everything
    We killed two cheapy ones and two genuine ones between us. I hear you on the ls coils. They are bulletproof. But they're so shit to install neatly!
    1988 AW11 9A-GTE - project #1 | 1984 MA61 1JZ-GTE - project #2
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    .....and the within first laps everything that made the AW11 great hit Rex as if the 'Gods of driving fun' had all Jizzed on his face.....
    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8 View Post
    Mono blocs mate....as close to yours as a Ferrari is to a Fiesta

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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    small thread hi jack.
    tried starting my car with a base map, set the timing etc and no luck. have spark and fuel pressure. so I have one question.
    when running COP is it possible to set the timing 360' out?
    ie its sparking on exhaust stroke not power/compression stroke?
    I believe it is and all I have to do is pull the dizzy and turn it 180. (results as 360 at the crank)
    any way to confirm im out 360" apart from removing the valve cover?

    oh and the timing is set to 10" with locked timing on the ecu and it ligns up with 10" on the crank MARK
    1990 ST185 Running stock Gen 3 power, 216awhp at 15psi. 13.6 second down the quarter

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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    you could have the coils wired up in the wrong way so that they are not firing in the correct order. you can have the timing out if you put the dizzy in on the wrong TDC. you want TDC for compression stroke on cylinder 1
    1988 AW11 9A-GTE - project #1 | 1984 MA61 1JZ-GTE - project #2
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    .....and the within first laps everything that made the AW11 great hit Rex as if the 'Gods of driving fun' had all Jizzed on his face.....
    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8 View Post
    Mono blocs mate....as close to yours as a Ferrari is to a Fiesta

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    Quote Originally Posted by aus jd 2703 View Post
    small thread hi jack.
    when running COP is it possible to set the timing 360' out?
    ie its sparking on exhaust stroke not power/compression stroke?
    Yes it's possible.
    If you're running wasted-spark then it doesn't matter, but if you're running full sequential ignition then it does matter.
    If your timing looks correct compared to the mark on the crank, then you're either correct or possibly off by 360 degrees.
    1990 SW20 MR2 with '5S-GTE'.
    418rwkw @ 32psi of boost on E85.
    289rwkw @ 20psi of boost on 98 RON.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trdee View Post
    what dwell time you running on them rob? I've killed two 1ZZ coils now at 3ms dwell, on wasted spark, my mate also killed two, now dialled back to 2.5ms and seem to be ok for the moment, but he hasn't really put many kms on it yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by robk View Post
    I think mine are at 3ms dwell, but I can't remember if I ever reduced it. I'll check my ECU tune file later.
    I'm running full sequential ignition, so that could be making the difference in longevity.
    I just checked my ECU settings and yes my dwell time is set to 3ms for my 1ZZ COPs.
    I think I'll just leave it like that, as it would be useful information to see how it goes in the long term anyway.
    1990 SW20 MR2 with '5S-GTE'.
    418rwkw @ 32psi of boost on E85.
    289rwkw @ 20psi of boost on 98 RON.

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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    Put timing mark on crank pulley at 80 degrees ATDC
    I think that's right
    Then put timing light on cyl 3
    Timing mark should match up to the 80 ATDC

    If u get stuck and around Gold Coast or brissy area and need to pay someone to fix it or get it going let me know
    I do this shit for a living

    Honda cbr motorbike coils are good to but u need a CDI to drive them for best results

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    Default Re: 3SGTE coil on plug conversion

    Fixed tooth offset was the issue! I'm an idiot for forgetting to adjust it. Runs now
    1990 ST185 Running stock Gen 3 power, 216awhp at 15psi. 13.6 second down the quarter

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