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    Default does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    as above, does it work only when giving it to it or does it also work during daily driving


    any know some vague savings
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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    wrong section +1

    the SAFC can tune your Air Fuel map so power delivery is ironed out and "smooth" i.e. linearly so if you believe that you drive with less throttle because your car makes more power, then yea there is savings to be made..

    for me, on my car dyno tuned with a very linear air fuel map and power delivery, i'd say i save SFA... it's about as good as getting a fuel star.. if you believe it works, then yea it probably does
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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    the SAFC is only affective when the car is in open loop mode, ie 90% + WOT. At cruising speeds + light loads the car is tuned by the O2 sensor and the factory closed loop.

    In short, it will save you 2/5 of fk all at WOT and nothing anywhere else.
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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    kk, next question, does it give u much more power
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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    Yes in conjunction with exhaust/boost/cooler as it allows you to lean out the top end/high rpm rather than running really rich which of course increase power.

    as to an exact kw or hp increase that depends on your mods.
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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    got pics i wanna know what im buying

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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better




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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    anyone willing to give me their SAFC settings so i i can base it upon that

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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    still trying to tune mine properly

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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    dyno tune = safe way
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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    yeh i know but dont plan on goin ont he dyno till i get my FMIC fitted but otherwise im want to learn to play arnd with it.. i mean 1jzgte fairly rich stock

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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    go buy an aftermarket computer, and dont waist ur time/money
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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysRA23
    go buy an aftermarket computer, and dont waist ur time/money

    gimme a few minutes and i'll PM u my bank account details so u can send me the $3k+ required for it
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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    Quote Originally Posted by Kedderz
    the SAFC is only affective when the car is in open loop mode, ie 90% + WOT. At cruising speeds + light loads the car is tuned by the O2 sensor and the factory closed loop.
    In short, it will save you 2/5 of fk all at WOT and nothing anywhere else.
    Highway driving sure... but around the city, esp in traffic, ECUs run in open loop a lot more.
    A good tune would then save a few $$s in fuel.

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    Default Re: does an apexi SAFC actually make your fuel economy better

    werd. they do make a difference. i have a zoom where they tested it on a JZA70, ended up going from 155rwkw to 173rwkw from just the SAFC. they did admit they were freak results and in that power range 10rwkw isnt asking to much

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