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    Default 4age wont start/ dies if it does

    Just bought a car, bought it with the engine not running and I'm now trying to get it going, its a jdm rwd bigport.

    Apparntly the morning i went to pick it up he said it started first thing, ran for about 5 mins then died. Now wont start again

    Its not getting any spark

    help please


    Ive checked basics

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    Default Re: 4age wont start/ dies if it does

    check engine main relay and fuse to ECU
    u got any power to the coil?

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    Yea power to coil just no negative trigger to other side

    fuse to ecu is fine.

    engine main being the "blower relay" lol

    righto ill check that

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    Default Re: 4age wont start/ dies if it does

    Ok so i went back tonight for anothe rlook


    checked the main pins at the ecu

    Earth pins are earthed, batter pins have battery

    However this pin IGt i take by the information below (gathered from club4ag) is supposed to have a positive signal when the engine is firing.

    Can anyone confirm this as this pin has no power on it.


    IG t Black/Blue Igniter Assembly Ignition timing signal


    The coil has ignition on both sides which I'm sure is how its supposed to be untill the distributor sends a negative signal to the negative side, which it is not doing.

    I also have to work out why i no longer have fuel pump working, the circuit opening relay has a positive out put to the fuel pump when its cranking over but its still not operating/priming.

    Ahh can anyone help me, I'm starting to think that a dizzy change is on the cards

    Cheers

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    Default Re: 4age wont start/ dies if it does

    yo

    my ae86 book tells me that IGT-E1 should have 0.7 - 1.0 v when idling...

    oh the fuel pump doesn't prime either. i got caught out with that
    when you flick you're ignition from start back to on (during starting) you'll hear it

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    Hmm well bit hard to test that cause it wont idle lol

    Um yea na it dosent even prime when u hit start for like 1 second. Not working. But seems the relay for the fuel pump (circuit opening relay) is working cause it has an + output to the fuel pump wire.

    Hmm

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    Default Re: 4age wont start/ dies if it does

    sounds like dizzy or igniter might be the issue.
    ie: ecu not getting signal from dizzy telling it to fire.....OR....its getting signal but the ignitor is not telling the coil to spark.

    u checked to make sure the rotor is actually rotating when the engine is turned over (not a broken cam belt)

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    Default Re: 4age wont start/ dies if it does

    check the wiring around the dizzy plug. Sometimes become split and exposed wires.
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    Default Re: 4age wont start/ dies if it does

    Been over that thoroughly

    mmm i hate cars lol

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    Default Re: 4age wont start/ dies if it does

    dude is the rotor button spinning when you're cranking?

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    hinting at a broken timing belt?

    I honestly thought to check but forgot lol, havent had it off as i figured theres no spark even geting to it yet lol

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    yeah
    just check first mate.....just to be sure

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