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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    ill have a measure tonight, by eyecrometer it looked the same.

    sheepers.

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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    Yeah, probably more dependent on strut/brake combo that you use.

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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    its more dependent on brake and strut combo as i have found out.

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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    Digging, again!

    Iv fitted an *A70 column and AE86 PS rack to the RA28.

    Can anyone please run a tape measure over their steering shafts (column - rack)?

    I need something in the region of around 300mm (to end of both uni's). The *A70 one i have is more like 400mm ish (eye ball).

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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    Usually people complain about the shaft being too short.. But thats the KE70 one.. A70 must be different.
    I'll get measurements tomorrow for you if no one jumps in first.
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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    I thought it would be to short to since have moved my rack and cross member forward somewhat.

    That would be great if you could get those measurements Joel, thanks.

    Jeffro

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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    I'm about to measure my stuff up too Jeffro.

    Running KE70 xmember, and GA70 steering. Did you have any major prob's to speak of?
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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    I've got KE70 R&P. I used the RA23 column housing, RA23 upper steering shaft (bit that mounts to steering wheel) slid into the KE70 lower shaft (part that stick thru firewall with a uni-joint on the end.) I mounted two ball bearings in the end of the RA23 column housing to support the end with the Uni joint similar to stock KE70 ball bearing.

    Then used the normal KE70 short shaft with uni to attach to the Rack. I needed this to be 10mm or so longer for my application. It should be made of two pieces, I just hit mine to extend the necessary amount. Not sure how far you can safely extend it out however, you'd really need to pull apart completely to check exact lengths.
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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    Quote Originally Posted by timbosaurus View Post
    I'm about to measure my stuff up too Jeffro.

    Running KE70 xmember, and GA70 steering. Did you have any major prob's to speak of?

    No major problems really timbo, thats if i can find a lower shaft suitable

    Since its PS rack i think its a tad taller in the pinion shaft then manual versions so should gain some distance here also.

    *A70 column went in peice of piss. Welded on some tabs to widen the two main column mount wings to suit the wider *A70 column mounts. For firewall plate i just cut the center out of the *A70 plate and welded it to the inner of the stock firewall plate after gutting it aswell. Some minor clearancing of *A70 column also but takes 2 mins with grinder. Is telescopic and tilt adjustable

    Thanks for input peoples, eagerly await your repsonces with measurements



    Cheers
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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Clod View Post
    I've got KE70 R&P. I used the RA23 column housing, RA23 upper steering shaft (bit that mounts to steering wheel) slid into the KE70 lower shaft (part that stick thru firewall with a uni-joint on the end.) I mounted two ball bearings in the end of the RA23 column housing to support the end with the Uni joint similar to stock KE70 ball bearing.

    Then used the normal KE70 short shaft with uni to attach to the Rack. I needed this to be 10mm or so longer for my application. It should be made of two pieces, I just hit mine to extend the necessary amount. Not sure how far you can safely extend it out however, you'd really need to pull apart completely to check exact lengths.
    Identical to what I did on mine.

    I did notice that some KE70/AE71 steering columns don't have the adjustable 2 piece lower part of the column (ie. between the 2 uni joints), so double check that you get the adjustable one when grabbing from the wreckers.
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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    Im pretty sure ill have trouble finding a ke70/ae71 one with the PS spline size. Or is that uni dependable only? As in, the shaft remains the same but the uni takes up the spline size change of PS vs non power racks?

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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    So guys did you give those tape measures some love today or wha?

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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    Kinda..
    I got a measurement for you I hope is useful.

    I forgot the xmember and rack/bottom uni is out of the car at the moment..

    So I took a measurement from the firewall to the end of the steering column shaft (with no uni attached) and this was around 250-260mm. This was with the steering column shaft pointing outwards at a 90 deg angle to firewall.

    Cheers
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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    Seems pretty close to what i need. What steering column shaft are you using?
    Thanks for heads up man!

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    Default Re: RA23/28 with KE70 steering column and rack and pinion

    I am using a complete KE70 steering column.
    The shaft was originally 10 - 20mm shorter but they can be extended on the shaft between the 2x uni's.
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