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    Thought as much! Cleaned it up and bought some high temp silicone to slap it back on. Leaning towards a catch can because the air-filter will be on the passenger side. Having HEAPS of trouble getting the old (probably factory) gasket off. Anyone have some suggestions? It's a real awkward spot to work on under the manifold there.

    I'll grab one of those bolts when I head to the bolt shop next. Cheers for the info. I'd rep you if I could

    Anyone have an ignition map for the 3T-GTE??? Or fuel map? It would be really useful to having one in the coming weeks to kick it over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamke35 View Post
    ive been reading about running 1 and 4 together and 2 and 3 together to merge into the collector.
    Adam,

    This is only necessary on a split pulse exhaust housing, it won't make any difference on a normal housing but add to the complexity of pipe layout.

    Roger

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    Quote Originally Posted by toyo-al View Post
    Also, what does this do?

    Do I need it? Can I blank it off? And if I cannot, what does the breather hose connect to??
    Hey Toyo Al as has already been said it is a crank breather but mine doesnt connect to intake pipe or catch can, from factory mine connects to intake manifold, circled red on drawing below, it has an aluminium reducing piece to reduce hose size to fit inlet manifold size, hope this helps and makes things easier

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    Default Re: 3T GTE Tech

    remember that pipe also has a one way valve to stop boost from pressurising the crank.
    Its the cam breather pipe that connects directly to intake pipe before turbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE25 View Post
    remember that pipe also has a one way valve to stop boost from pressurising the crank.
    Its the cam breather pipe that connects directly to intake pipe before turbo.


    2nded - those one way valves are very important!

    I was helping a mate who is rather car illiterate with his R32 skyline a few years back and one of the first things I did was to remove the atmo BOV and install the stock item again A) for legality purposes and B) because I believe the MAF cars dont do well at all with atmo BOV anyhow... (another argument of its own no doubt! ). As it turned out the useless turd who had installed said atmo BOV originally got back under the bonnet unbeknowns to me and reinstalled the damn atmo POS - get this - he reasoned the only illegal thing about atmo BOV was crankcase gasses being vented atmospherically so he plumbed cam cover breather into an available port on the intake manifold WITHOUT a one way valve... This happened to be right before the poor mate drove the car to sunny coast 600km away and it pushed out so much oil on the trip that the oil warning light was showing on the dash as he reached his destination! End of story was that I advised him to baby it home and I fixed the issue by discarding atmo BOV once again and returning plumbing to its original location - that and letting him know that if the other dufus ever got under the bonnet again that he don't bother asking me for any further help!

    Rant over...

    Use protection people, uh I mean one way valves!

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    Personally I don't like the one way valve setup to the manifold (I have to run a catch can any way as part of regs) but imagine you are on boost, this is the time when you get the most blyby and your one way valve is being shut by boost pressure.

    This leaves the cam cover to do all the venting (as long as it doesn't have a one way valve in it).

    I think the best protection is both to the air filter before the turbo or to a catch can when winding the boost up.

    Roger

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    I don't see the factory setup as being an issue unless you are racing, the one way valves work perfectly fine. with the T series the head and crankcase are joined anyway through the timing cover, with the intake pipe sucking excess blowby out of the head when you are on boost (its plumbed in pre turbo) and the crankcase breather putting blowby through the engine when the throttle plate is shut. Effectively only one can work at a time anyway. Not too many cars actually spend enough time on boost on the race track (let alone on the road) not to have enough vacuum on throttle lift off. Keeping the blowby gases out of the combustion chamber is a separate issue, gets a little trickier while retaining legality in Oz.

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    Just FYI, I got one of those housings (and it was even cheaper than $28), chucked it on and here's how it sits:





    A little too high really. I'll see if I can get a hose to suit, but will need to find the 2TG housing for down the track still.

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    Hi again.

    Has anyone found a substitute for the coolant bypass line that run's from the thermostat housing to just below it. It's an unusual shaped hose.

    Part# is 16261-88280.

    Or does anyone have one laying around, not in use, that's also in good condition?

    Any help would be great thanks!


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    some 3TGTE info, in russian tho'. Has a funky old Jap diagram too lol

    http://www.supersaloon.ru/index.php?topic=38.0
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    Hey guys

    Just a couple of quick ones.

    Is the 2tg water pump the same as the 3tgte pump?

    Where can I get a new one?

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    Diz44zy,

    A 2TG-EU water pump will fit and work well BUT you need to make sure you get the right one. There are 2 different types of water pumps, They have different lengths on the shaft that the fan bolts to. The 3T-GTE needs the shorter one (and matching shorter water pump pulley).

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    You wouldn't happen to know the part number for the 2TG-EU pump?
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    Good luck finding one dude.
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    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

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    FYI, my mechanic found me a replacement water pump from ACE pumps, made in Japan.
    Once i get the car back i'll get the part number off it.

    only mod needed is to block off one of the pipes on it with a grub screw.
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