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    Default Re: Is it ok to run UZ on this angle? Sorry large pic inside....

    i would be sending it back surely they dont expect you to accept it like that
    it would be ok but it looks a little dodgy
    if you have had enough with them can you get the bellhousing cut and rewelded around to correct the angle

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    Default Re: Is it ok to run UZ on this angle? Sorry large pic inside....

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe
    Lexsmaz, the oil won't ever get low, I make sure of that.

    Cars run up and down hills all day long, putting the engine at a greater lean than what it is now. Surely it won't cause any serious issues....??
    i would get it so the bottom of the sump sits level. its asking for oil supply probs leaving it like that.
    do you go 4WDing much if so think of some of the lean angles you get 35-40 deg then add them onto what you have now (about 15deg by the looks of it) so at times you could get up to 55deg from level if your traversing a hill with the P/S up.
    it could be ok for a short period but chances are all the oil would stay in the right bank and cause bearing damage due to lack of oil in the sump.

    can you retap the BH to suit or isnt there enough meat.
    whats the tilt plate worth $wise

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    Default Re: Is it ok to run UZ on this angle? Sorry large pic inside....

    There is enough meat to re-tap yes, just a matter of doing it, and getting it spot on.
    I'd have to have a think about it, but i'm guessing i'd need to make a jig to get it right.

    If I re-tap, there will be (from memory) around 5-6mm between the old holes, and the new ones. Is there enough meat there do you think?

    Not sure how much the anti tilt plate is, but the dollars doesn't worry me. It's the time it'll take. Plus they'll send the wrong one and it'll need to go back.

    I'm starting to think that re-tapping the better way to go though....

    The correct tap will cost an arm and a leg too i'm guessing.

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    what size tap? probly 12x1.25 which should be about $60 for a QUALITY one.
    probly find the hole centres will be more like 20mm apart but as long as you have atleast 3mm between threads it should be fine. its easy to do but id need to see a pic of the BH to show you how.

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    Default Re: Is it ok to run UZ on this angle? Sorry large pic inside....

    From memory I think it is a 14mm bolt. 1mm pitch. Something fine anyhow.

    At the moment everything is in the car. Maybe I could rotate the engine/bellhousing into the right position and mark the holes. This way everything will rotate around the crank or spigot bearing and will remain central.

    I'd just hate to get it wrong, even by 0.5mm will mean it won't bolt together

    I might go grab some pictures to better explain what I mean....

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    That looks to be some pretty severe lean, unacceptable to me. It appears as mentioned that the bellhousing - gearbox holes are not drilled correctly. They can't sell you that rubbish send it back, your spending alot of time and money on a conversion and it will always bug you if you don't do it right.

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    Default Re: Is it ok to run UZ on this angle? Sorry large pic inside....

    Hey, sorry i can't add factual information, i'm not experienced with 1uz's,

    but if it's going in a 4wd, which will see 4wd action, won't that lean be pretty tame compared to what's going to happen later?

    corollary to that, i doubt the 1uz sump is designed for 4wd-type oil-up-one-side-of-the-engine, maybe the sump should be looked at/modified regardless...?

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    Default Re: Is it ok to run UZ on this angle? Sorry large pic inside....

    Agree totally Skip. However my chances of finishing the conversion quickly if I go back and get them to rectify the problem are remote to say the least.

    This is by no means a show car, just a means to get odd jobs done around the house, tow a trailer and such. If I can get the thing acceptable, or close to acceptable, then i'm happy with that. Aslong as it's not dodgy or unsafe in any way.

    Ok, just been outside and there is no way I can re-tap the housing. Not even a single degree. However, the CRS kit does come with a spacer plate that I might be able to re-make from steel and correct the tilt by offsetting and countersinking the holes. See pic below....

    In the pic, which is taken from the back of the engine while it's sitting in the bay, the bellhousing and engine needs to rotate anti-clockwise and you can see the bolt in view will interfere with the clutch fork.

    Appreciate peoples thoughts on this....

    While I was outside I played with spacing the gearbox crossmember. The desired effect might be able to be achieved with a spacer of around 8mm. But i'll need to play with it further to know for sure.


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