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    Default Re: Using 5A head on 7A block

    Billzilla,
    whr did u get the "FE" 280deg cam from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by normality78
    Billzilla,
    whr did u get the "FE" 280deg cam from?

    They're stellite regrinds.

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    is stellite the name of the company?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Q
    is stellite the name of the company?

    No, the material added to the cam lobe to make it bigger. It's simply welded on, then ground cam in the cam grinding machine. It's about $25 per lobe at Kelfords.
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    I thought that wasnt reliable?? I have read to stay away from it because it chips, but I havent looked much into it personally

    also cant you just order a blank from toyota and grind it? or its it a large enough diameter for what you have in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Q
    I thought that wasnt reliable?? I have read to stay away from it because it chips, but I havent looked much into it personally

    also cant you just order a blank from toyota and grind it? or its it a large enough diameter for what you have in mind?

    They are problematic, that's for sure, but there's not a lot of other options.
    Toyota don't sell blanks.
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    Default Re: Using 5A head on 7A block

    they do according to a place near me, it was clive or wade cams I cant remember, but it was in relation to a set of 20V items, only $350 a pair I think, but it was a while ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Q
    3sgte: could I have a link for that early/late F head comparasin thread?
    Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to an earlier post in this thread.

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    Getting back to the original question of whether the 5af has bigger cams than a 4af or 7af...

    It can quite easilly be determined with a dial indicator with a base and a degree wheel. Pop the cam cover off, set up the dial indicator so that it reads the cam lobe, zero it and rotate the engine through a few rotations, recording the reading on the dial indicator every 5 degrees or so.

    You can even plot it all out on a graph when you're done
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    You could also get billet cams made up, in just about any material you like, but they aint cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfire
    Getting back to the original question of whether the 5af has bigger cams than a 4af or 7af...

    It can quite easilly be determined with a dial indicator with a base and a degree wheel. Pop the cam cover off, set up the dial indicator so that it reads the cam lobe, zero it and rotate the engine through a few rotations, recording the reading on the dial indicator every 5 degrees or so.

    You can even plot it all out on a graph when you're done
    while that is very true I am going to do something else; I might as well pull the cam cover off that 5A engine while I am at that wrecker if I get a moment, I will measure the low section and the max lift with a vernia indicator.

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    SamQ,
    do share your finding ok? Tks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzilla
    They are problematic, that's for sure, .
    care to share more on the "problematic"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by normality78
    SamQ,
    do share your finding ok? Tks
    dont worry I will, its the main reason I am doing it, I will try and take a picture of the ports too, thats assuming I end up having enough time to do so.

    I would so laugh if a 5A head is an undiscovered monster in disguise, I majorly doubt that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by normality78
    care to share more on the "problematic"?
    Yep.
    I've had stellite cams go for years with no problems at all, but others that develop small pits and have to be repaired. It's no big deal, you just have to keep an eye on them for the first few months every now and then to see how they're going.
    Then have another look later on, and if they're still okay then they should be good for a long time.
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