Starting Project soon, need info

[Aquacadet]

So i'm starting a project soon, my first in fact, and im looking for info on what i should do. anyway help would be greatly appreciated.
1. What are the main differences between the TE72 and KE70, mechanically and apperance wise.
2.What are the diff options for the above cars. Do they have a T18, and does a T18 except any aftermarket lsds?
3.Do both the TE72 and Ke70 readily accept a 4A-GE.
Ultimately i want to use the car for drift, and im not worried about looks or anything. I'm just trying to find out which car to look for, so if you could link to photos of KE70 and TE72 that would be great.

sorry for my stupidity

[love ke70]

manual ae71 for mega simplicity of installing a 4age.
just keep searching mate, theres lots and lots of info out there.
ae86 driving club, on here, the old toymods, rollaclub, club4ag.com, GOOGLE!

[o_man_ra23]

KE70 has a borg warner diff and 1.3ltr pushrod motor

TE72 IS A T18... it has a T series diff, 3T-C pushrod motor and T50 gearbox. This car lends itself nicely to a 3T-GTE motor, which poo poos all over the 4A-GE (though it is turbo and not very P plater friendly). For P platers though, you can do a 3T/2T-G hybrid motor (there are a few around) which have plenty of torque and high rev capability, good for your dorifto. Remember that 4A-GEs arent magically drift machine engines from factory, they take a lot of work to get them to that stage.

The T18 (TE72) easily accomodates the F series diff, which is a 7.5" centre diff, with a plethora of ratios available, strong axles and LSD galore around. It also has a transmission tunnel which will accomodate the W5x series of celica/supra gearboxes (and a 1G bellhousing will bolt said gearbox to a T series motor).

Of course, if you really want a competitive drift car, you need either a boosted engine, or a larger capacity engine... because torque spins tyres, and 4As dont produce torque (without a vast amount of work).

So, my question now is... what is your technical ability (do you know your way around a set of tools and a workshop manual), and what is your budget. If you are completely set on a 4A motor, find a smaller car, such as a KE20 Corolla. If not, you need to know your limits, and work with them to create your desire.

Also, where in QLD are you?? The south-east, or somewhere a bit more remote??

[Aquacadet]

KE70 has a borg warner diff and 1.3ltr pushrod motor

TE72 IS A T18... it has a T series diff, 3T-C pushrod motor and T50 gearbox. This car lends itself nicely to a 3T-GTE motor, which poo poos all over the 4A-GE (though it is turbo and not very P plater friendly). For P platers though, you can do a 3T/2T-G hybrid motor (there are a few around) which have plenty of torque and high rev capability, good for your dorifto. Remember that 4A-GEs arent magically drift machine engines from factory, they take a lot of work to get them to that stage.

The T18 (TE72) easily accomodates the F series diff, which is a 7.5" centre diff, with a plethora of ratios available, strong axles and LSD galore around. It also has a transmission tunnel which will accomodate the W5x series of celica/supra gearboxes (and a 1G bellhousing will bolt said gearbox to a T series motor).

Of course, if you really want a competitive drift car, you need either a boosted engine, or a larger capacity engine... because torque spins tyres, and 4As dont produce torque (without a vast amount of work).

So, my question now is... what is your technical ability (do you know your way around a set of tools and a workshop manual), and what is your budget. If you are completely set on a 4A motor, find a smaller car, such as a KE20 Corolla. If not, you need to know your limits, and work with them to create your desire.

Also, where in QLD are you?? The south-east, or somewhere a bit more remote??

Thanks for the reply, it helped heaps. I live in south east queensland, Logan area, and I have a pretty good technical knowledge. My budget is around 7k, and i want to do most or all of the work myself. Im not set on a 4A, i just want a car that is fairly suitable for drift.
I like the sound of the TE72, and all the diff options. How hard is it to fit a 3T though? Does it use the same engine mounts and everything? gain, thanks for the help.

[o_man_ra23]

TE72 come with a 3T-C... The 3T-GTE isnt too far removed, engine mounts may need a bit of juggling to get it to sit right (2T-C to 3T-GTE does at least). IMO, go for something like an RA40 Celica where you can slot in a 1UZ-FE 4.0Ltr V8 (motor displacement to weight and engine bay size make it legal in QLD), which will have all the drifting torque you will ever need... it will shite on a 4 cyl (even turbo) for driftability.

Cheers, Owen

[Aquacadet]

1UZ sounds cool, but would it upset the the weight distribution much?

[o_man_ra23]

Nope, they are similar weight to the original motor (18R-C = full cast iron, 1UZ = full Alloy), so your weight distribution stay beautiful... and the RA40 coupes were very well balanced. If it is heavier, get the Liftback as they are slightly arse heavy.