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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    What he said.. Celicapain my little padawan, your learning. ;-)

    So your starter is fine. Check.
    You have Fuel getting into this thing? I would check that THOROUGHLY...

    I would also do the following to check whethe ryou are getting spark, because it's very fundamental and easy to check.

    Pull out a spark plug. Plug the spark plug into the end of it's lead. Sit the spark plug on the rocker cover somewhere so the plug is grounded. Turn the engine over and watch to see if it's sparking or not (visually). (It may pay to pull the fuse on the fuel pump at this point to prevent it from accidentally firing.


    This will tell you very simply if you are getting spark. IF you are, then go check the fuel.

    If you need to go chasing fuel, then we'll cover that in the next article. ;-)
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    done that mate
    ive even pulled the lead out
    stuck a screwdriver in . put it down on the head n went to start it
    still no spark
    i checked fuses today etc
    all seem fine
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    So what your telling me is that you've tried the sparking issue and it's definately not sparking.

    SO,
    back to fundamentals

    A) get a mutlimeter
    B) Check power levels to all important powered points (coil, ignitor, etc..)
    C) get timing light
    D) use timing light to check to see if it's firing at some crazy random times.
    E) check all plugs to see that stuff is plugged in properly
    F) have beer.
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    vid
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    Quote Originally Posted by stradlater
    So what your telling me is that you've tried the sparking issue and it's definately not sparking.

    SO,
    back to fundamentals

    A) get a mutlimeter
    B) Check power levels to all important powered points (coil, ignitor, etc..)
    C) get timing light
    D) use timing light to check to see if it's firing at some crazy random times.
    E) check all plugs to see that stuff is plugged in properly
    F) have beer.
    iev tried a timing light but not gettin anythin cause no spark
    but yeh ill have to get a multi metre onto it next
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    I'd suggest a multimeter. Then beer, but not at the same time, cos multimeters involve electricity and pointy wires and stuff..
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    haha tru man!!!
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    as TA-0022 said, check for the power at ign barrel, (KEY)

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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    If that doesnt work,
    You said youve tried another coil/igniter but have you tried swapping over the dizzy?
    what sort of condition is the cap/rotor in?
    If its cranking then thats means your ignition switch is working. As far as i could tell when I went through the loom the ignition(spark) system is pretty self contained, it gets all its info from the ecu so changing anything upstream from the ecu wont help.
    So if the ecu is working properly that means the problem has to be somwhere in the dizzy-igniter-coil assembly, either the wiring or one of the components.
    Id do a continuity check on all the connections and if thats all good then id try and borrow a good dizzy.
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    Strad- ill let the padashan bit go considering all the help youve given me!
    p.s SHES UP AND RUNNING. just have to make a dump pipe(loud!)
    GA23(never finished-now with cracked block ) JZX83 (Tyre eater) 3sgte AE86. by now i should know better.

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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    Hah.. You know as well as I that the standard 1g-gte dizzy/coil/ignitor setup SUCKS arse and that a certain replacement dizzy certainly makes things easier..
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    suckier than suckfest 2000 in the suckdome filmed by the suck blimp.
    GA23(never finished-now with cracked block ) JZX83 (Tyre eater) 3sgte AE86. by now i should know better.

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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED

    ok boys so far!!
    changed ecu.. nothin
    changed dizzy.. nothin
    changed coil... nothin
    changed ignighter... nothin
    stil gettin no spark at all!!!.
    $100 bux who can come over n get it sparking!!
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED (reward offered :D)

    uuuggghhh nasty.
    Only thing i can think of is the state of you HT lead or engine loom, i think youve changed everything else that could have caused the problem
    If that doesnt work i spose your going to have to go from the dizzy thru to the ecu checking everything inbetween with a meter. (reluctors especially, though you have to be very unlucky to get two dodge dizzys!).

    New engine?
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    Default Re: still no spark for 1ggte???? UPDATED (reward offered :D)

    yeh tru hey
    any of those 4 things i replaced maybe 1 is again faulty, u never know
    i guess i still gotta find a multi metre and give it ago
    maybe gonna get sideshow out or sumthin
    but he is booked out for a few wks
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