How hard is it to remove an E-Manage from a 3s-gte ! ?

[GBC_069]

hey guys, well i am going to look at a gt4 tomorrow. now it has an emanage, which needs a fine tune. few questions about them
A) are they good ? some people ( gt4 boys ) told me they arent the best, better off without

B) how hard will it be to remove ? can it be done on the spot ? ( ie. to run car without computer )

C) can they be tuned by you with simply a USB cable ? or how much for tuning .

if anyone knows of anyone that can give me some advice tomorrow out in the quakers hill / mt druitt area please let me know asap - nick - 0422 671 267.

[blacktop]

when it comes to piggy back systems, it does not really matter if ones better than the other but how well you can tune it,
my advice find someone who is skilled with tuning an e-manage and keep it.

but if you really want to get rid of it, i would think it is just plugged in via an adapter, so just un plug.

it should still run with the standard ecu but depends what has been done to engine.

if you want to know more try nissansilvia.com as there are a few good tunners on there.

[JP]

if you zero all the maps on the emanage the car will run as if it's not connected.

Removing it all together doesn't take long. Just have to rejoin the ignition wires that were cut when it was installed.

If they used a fields harness for the install, then you just unplug it from the ECU and plug the factory loom back in.

[GBC_069]

how do i tell all the maps to go to zero ? and can i put em back , remembering this is some guys car !

[JP]

connect the laptop with the emanage tuning cable (serial to USB converter looking cable).

Open the support tool, save the current maps, then zero the ignition, injection and airflow maps.

Why would you want to remove it when you're just going to check the car out???

You can't hide problems with an emanage.

About the only thing that might be different is if they've implemented the boost cut clamp, so without the emanage it might hit boost cut if the car's running a cooler and exhaust.

[GBC_069]

yer the car has boosting prob's. the owner reckons coz the emanage is running a bad tune, was thinking of removing it to check these issues.

( ie. it doesnt wanna respond under 4K rpm for some reason, wants to hestitate etc. )

yer i ll go get a professional look at the car tomorrow hopefully. check everything out !

....also , can you tune an emanage yourself ? with jus a usb cable ? or do you need software to do it with ? what program would you use to tune one ?

[EldarO]

the e-manage cable and software come in a bundle, its under $150.

then to tune it you need a laptop, and a wideband O2 sensor.

AFAIK the e-manage can be zero'd out without connecting a laptop, as it should have a "reset" button there somewhere, might have a look in the manual and see if it can find it.

the hesitation sounds like a shitty tune though, maybe boost leak too?

Elmo.

[chris davey]

if it was my car that I was selling I wouldn't be letting anybody take the ecu out. If the fella knows exactly what the problem is but isn't telling you then I would be very wary. If you genuinely think that he has no idea then I would continue to look at the car. You may pick it up for a bargain and then just need a retune.

[GBC_069]

yer , i am not gonna go stuffing his car up .

what i was thinking was if there was a simple unlug main power lead, to see if it doesnt hesitate down low like it currently is.

i am thinking it may just be a bad tune, coz it boosts fine up higher.

anyone recomend a e-manage tuner on here ? and a rough idea of HOW MUCH !

[blacktop]

i know i guy in melbourne (not much use for you) but he charges about $200, and he does a F**KING good job, your best bet would be trying a forum like nissansilvia.com or somthing similer (drift related) to find a good tuner, sounds like a bit of work but its the only way you can find out if they know what there talking about, as there are alot of guys who think they can tune but don't know shit.

[EldarO]

the e-manage might be unpluggable... the problem would be if hes used the ignition harness.

the ignition wires need to be cut, whereas the injector harness is just tapped in.

the Greddy harnesses also have provisions for the airflow wire, which, although needs to be cut, because the greddy unit comes with bullet connectors out of the box, you can just unplug the unit, and plug up both sides of the air flow wire (should be light green) to each other to bypass it.

Elmo.

[GBC_069]

hmmm yer, i think if i buy the car , i ll either be getting it re-tuned or removed.

as there are simply so many views on YES they are good or NO they are crap !

like all of em , including the SAFCs etc .!

cheers for the info guys.

[EldarO]

well ive got one, but im not biased as i havent had it tuned etc.

they sound like a decent unit, so im waiting on some more money for the USB cable and a wideband...

if you buy the car, and it comes with the cable, let me know how much $$ you want for it

Elmo.

[theprotest]

The computer is only as good as the tuner. Choose a tuner, then choose an ECU.

[blacktop]

^^^^^^^^ theprotest is right on the money