4agze into KE rolla - Mounting Kit Avaliable?

[JUSTIN K]

Does anyone yet do an "off the shelf mounting kit" for The 4a series of engines into a ke corolla? any help would be appreciated.

[BradW]

Not that I know of.
I am currently making a set of custom mounts to put a 4age into my KE30. Not really hard to do.
What I did was, get a set of engine mount rubbers that you think will be suitable. I'm using Ford Escort engine mount rubbers. This is them.

You could also use TA22 celica ones. Basically you want one that has a mounting stud out of each side of the rubber.
Next I made up some cardboard patterns of the pieces that bolt to the block and to the mount. Got them cut out in steel. Bolted them up. Made sure the engine was sitting in the right spot and made cardboard patterns of the pieces to join the block plate to the mount plate. Got these cut out in steel, checked them for fit and tack welded them together. Then pulled them off the car to get the final welding done.
Here's a couple of pics of the passenger side mount tacked together so you get an idea.



Even if you don't have access to metal working gear you could make the mounts out of cardboard and take it somewhere to be made out of steel.
Hope this helps.

[rxtoy]

there's a guy in NZ who occasionally sells bolt on kits on trademe. he posts on www.toyspeed.org.nz forums as 'Grotty'. can't remember the price sorry but he would be worth contacting.

cheers
Matt

[rxtoy]

just had a quick look through the toyspeed forums, can't find any for sale on there. there are some advertised on trademe (our local ebay in NZ), here's the link:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-95159054.htm

i'd offer to grab them for you but i'm flying out in less than a week and won't be home for a couple of months. there must be a few NZ posters on here that could help you out though????

cheers
Matt

[57OMPA]

There is a guy on rollaclub that is selling a custom crossmember for a 4a motor into a ke55, can try and find out if u would like?

Cheers Jae

[stretch]

hey what ke are you doing the conversion on? i bought a set of custome ke20 - 4a mounts a few months back off trademe but i had to scrap my project as it rusted out. if you got a ke20 i could get mine copied for you. pm me if interested.

[cooter]

why dont you just find an ae71/ae86 crossmember with the 4a mounts. it should all just bolt in. thats if its a ke70 rolla. have no idea about ke20/30 etc
cheers
craig

[UMP-man]

the mounts on trademe look good. anyone here used them?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-106513863.htm

also why hasnt he listed ke55 in there? i think his forgotten it.

also are these the everything needed to mount the 4age engine/gearbox?

sorry bout the questions but i'm in the research stages of a future project. and haven't had any serious mechanical experience with any 4k or 4a series engines.

thanks for any help.

[WDE_BDY]

KE55 is not listed as it wasn't sold in NZ, you will need to sort out gearbox crossmember but I believe the right holes are already in the floor for the T50. Someone who has done it may be able to confirm, the T50 mount is further rearward than the K series box.

Callum

[Hiro]

the mounts on trademe look good. anyone here used them?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-106513863.htm

also why hasnt he listed ke55 in there? i think his forgotten it.

also are these the everything needed to mount the 4age engine/gearbox?

sorry bout the questions but i'm in the research stages of a future project. and haven't had any serious mechanical experience with any 4k or 4a series engines.

thanks for any help.

KE55 is the same chassis/body/engine as the KE30/35 anyway, just with the 4K instead of the 3K which use the same mounts anyway. Apart from that, the only difference is spec and cosmetic, plus some nifty side intrusion bars in the doors.

[UMP-man]

you will need to sort out gearbox crossmember but I believe the right holes are already in the floor for the T50. Someone who has done it may be able to confirm, the T50 mount is further rearward than the K series box.

Callum

but if i decide to use the k50 box i shouldnt have any issues with that right. from what i;ve read so far the k series and t series boxes are all interchangeable?

thanks for info, positive rep to both of u...

[WDE_BDY]

You can only use a K50 box IF you can find an A series K50, which happen to be very rare in Oz. The K series K50 and A series K50 have a different bellhousing bolt pattern and are cast integral with the rest of the gearbox. You are far better to go with the T50 and sort the gearbox crossmember.

Callum

[UMP-man]

Yeah you are right, T50 is the better option here.
But out of curiosity how can i identify whether my k50 is the A or K version.

Thanks.

[WDE_BDY]

Same other than the pattern on the bellhousing, so really you need an A series block or the sandwich plate at least to check which one it is.

Callum

[Aust162]

If its a K version the gearbox and bellhousing will be one unit. if its an A version it will have a separate bellhousing. If it's an Aust car it will have a K version. As WDE BDY said, the separate bellhousing A version k50 are really rare and will be very hard to find one in oz.

Edit: sorry, i'm not sure if the A series k50 has a separate bellhousing.. ?