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    this is the tech section - keep on topic
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    this is the tech section - keep on topic

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    Oh and to add to the info thread - St205 rear brake assembly including- i mean everthing , from the mounting arms up, handbrake cables - bolt straight onto a 185 with no modifications .. thios means you can retain the dust shields on the full size rotor - and not have to cut , remove or bend it

    Advice though would be check rim spacing first if your using less than a 17 inch rim - as some styles of 16's will just touch by the slimmest of margains on the caliper ( due to rim design , not actual toyota components )
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    this is the tech section - keep on topic
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    I have a few...nothing amazing tho...

    mx83 dash mats "fit" gx81 with an extra vent hole made
    7mgte injectors (440cc) are a 4age direct upgrade
    ae86/te72/ke70 etc seat rails all fit, some sit on slightly diff angles
    ke70/ae86 rack - not indential internals but damn near close enough
    ae86/te72/ke70 - trailing arms all identical
    xt130 corona lower control arms - driect fit into ae86/te72/ke70 - gives upto 1.7 deg neg camber


    to the person who said ke70 tops fit ae86 for more castor, i have seen the better strut inclination they give..but i have never tried myself, but one thing to not is ae86 shock pistion dia - 22mm - gheyE70 - 20mm......

    ae86 strut braces do NOT directly fit t18...

    Camry SV2X rack ends directly fit ae86

    ta22 crown wheel and pinions are generally 4.1..6.7 inch centre to fit t series rear end...

    Rumour (from wrecker) he has seen 2 4.3 ta22 centres in 25 years...he said they were both auto!

    ae82 radiator into overheating ke70! hahaha cable ties...but fits flush with the top, and out lets line up....


    thats it for now...
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    one handy for those wanting to change thier valve stem seals on the smokey 1JZs...

    4AFC Valve stem seals are comepletely identical but run different part numbers...they fit perfectly and are Half the price
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    lance, classic - this is not the 'chit chat' section if i recall correctly
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    Something i found out recently, for all you TA22/RA23 owners, you can flog off that bloody annoying monster accelerator pedal in favour of an RA40 item. The RA40 item; doesnt hinge off the floor nor is it as big as tasmania itself.

    But of bending required to get it to the correct shape but it can be done.

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    Why not just use an RA60 item which allows for cable throttle, get rid of the worn throttle links. This would apply to RA40 too. in my personaly opinion tho, the big ass tasmania sized pedal of the XA2X celicas (which is identical to KE3X-KE5X corollas) gives that touch of classic look, and i wouldnt trade it in for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truenosedan
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    Rumour (from wrecker) he has seen 2 4.3 ta22 centres in 25 years...he said they were both auto!
    Think I posted this on the old forums.

    TA23 coupe (1976-77) had manual and auto option. Auto option had optional 4.3 ratio or else was supplied standard with 4.1 - to get the 4.3 you had to pick the 1600 TA23 over 2L RA23, then pick the auto, then somehow decide after having picked the most soft-cock Celica in the range that straight-line performance was just important enough to select the optional "short" ratio in place of the standard one. Little wonder there are few out there.

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    Cant believe noone has been captain obvious yet, bar one post.
    heres some for the ae86;

    -t18 rear end bolts directly in, they come with either 3.9 or 3.7 (edited and adjusted according to treunosedan) ratios which are both HIGHER than a stock sprinters 4.3 the only difference are some dont have SWAYBAR mounts (but sprinter ones can be cut off and welded on). The other difference is the length in handbrake cables, they have the exact same OVERALL length but the difference lies from the centre mount to the handbrake and the T18 one is slightly longer. You can use it in a sprinter but you need to chuck in some dummy nuts under the two tightening nuts on the handbrake. The other difference is the tailshalf, you must use the rear half of the t18 to use the tseries rearend on a sprinter (4a t50)

    -ra40/ra60 struts bolt directly onto an ae86 but ra60 struts will give around 1.0degree of positive camber. Various other combos also work to give different effects. The other obvious one using ra40 tie rods with sigma control arms gives around 3.0 degrees of negative camber.

    -sv21 camry rearview mirrors (which are wider and slightly higher than sprinter ones) screw straight into the pattern on the sprinter.

    -ae82 bumper blinkers fit the ae86 kouki levin (import) front bar.

    EDIT::::: certain other suggestions removed as requested (takai)

    EDIT:::::::: Sorry guys Guess I woke up too early to post this one! and Ive been a total zombie the past week. An 18hr drive from melbourne, 3hrs sleep then back to work driving for 11hours. Funny how the mind can slip in term usage..

    Takai>>>

    You learn something everyday. My car came with a 4.3 ratio and since its auspec I assumed that was the standard? Sorry. As for my t18 rear end. I will investigate this further. I believe I used the correct equation of teeth counting. As When I counted a friends it was 3.9 and mine 4.1. Statement removed until clarified.

    ed_jza80>> All too true, Again I put it down to being an idiot from the moment I wokeup and posted and ran to work =p Typing something and thinking the other. As far as the rest goes I posted said info because Ive done it first hand several times.

    Mic>> Nice comment at the end of your post, your very intelligent and all class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bathurst-91
    heres some for the ae86;

    -t18 rear end bolts directly in, they come with either 4.1 or 3.9 ratios which are both lower than a stock sprinters 4.3 the only difference are some dont have panhard mounts (but sprinter ones can be cut off and welded on).
    1. The standard AE86 rear end is not a 4.3 ratio.
    2. A 3.9 or 4.1 ratio is not lower than a 4.3 ratio.
    3. All T18 differentials have a panhard rod mount ffs. Some don't have stabiliser bar mounts, which is another thing entirely.

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    ae86 standard jdm 4.3
    ae86 standard adm 3.9

    ta22 - 4.1
    ta22 (auto) - 4.3

    t18 series 1, no swaybar, 3.7
    t18 series 2, swaybar, 3.9

    bathurst - 91 please edit the mistakes in your post

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    bathurst - please MAKE SURE as far as humanly possible that all information is accurate...

    please edit as required above

    also - generally speaking, remember its best to post information you KNOW rather than information youve HEARD. the internet is full misinfomation, particularly US 'facts' that are complete shit. please be wary
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    bathurst you should also not that the tailshaft rear half must be t series and the front must be to suit 4a t-50

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