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    Default Re: full channel main rod bearings

    The fact that the 3a has full channel bearings and the 4a supposedly being a "performance engine" was only given half channel from the factory raises some question as to why ?

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    Default Re: full channel main rod bearings

    its could also be a small sump so its always got oil just there
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    Default Re: full channel main rod bearings

    Here's something (pages 14, 15 &16 of 88) that graphs a greater power loss for each degree of grooving in the lower main!

    http://www.engineparts.com/publications/EB-40-06.pdf
    Thanks Clevite!
    ************************************************** **********************
    INFLUENCE OF GROOVING ON MAIN BEARING PERFORMANCE
    Various forms of main bearing grooving have been used
    over the years. We are frequently asked what difference
    grooving makes.
    First, it’s essential to understand that bearings depend on a
    film of oil to keep them separated from the shaft surface.
    This oil film is developed by shaft rotation. As the shaft
    rotates it pulls oil into the loaded area of the bearing and
    rides up on this film much like a tire hydroplaning on wet
    pavement. Grooving in a bearing acts like tread in a tire to
    break up the oil film. While you want your tires to grip the
    road, you don’t want your bearings to grip the shaft.
    The primary reason for having any grooving in a main
    bearing is to provide oil to the connecting rods. Without rod
    bearings to feed, a simple oil hole would be sufficient to
    lubricate a main bearing. Many early engines used full
    grooved bearings and some even used multiple grooves. As
    engine and bearing technology developed, bearing grooving
    was removed from modern lower main bearings. The result
    is in a thicker film of oil for the shaft to ride on. This
    provides a greater safety margin and improved bearing life.
    Upper main shells, which see lower loads than the lowers,
    have retained a groove to supply the connecting rods with
    oil.
    In an effort to develop the best possible main bearing
    designs for performance engines, we’ve investigated the
    effects of main bearing grooving on bearing performance.
    The graphs on the next page illustrate that a simple 180°
    groove in the upper main shell is still the best overall
    design.
    While a slightly shorter groove of 140° provides a marginal
    gain, most of the benefit is to the upper shell, which doesn’t
    need improvement. On the other hand, extending the
    groove into the lower half, even as little as 20° at each
    parting line (220° in total), takes away from upper bearing
    performance without providing any benefit to the lower half.
    It’s also interesting to note that as groove length increases
    so do Horsepower Loss and Peak Oil Film Pressure which
    is transmitted directly to the bearing.


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    Default Re: full channel main rod bearings

    good find mate!
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    Default Re: full channel main rod bearings

    now THAT answers my question +rep
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    Default Re: full channel main rod bearings

    TRD mains are full grooved
    I DONT WORK FOR TOYOTA ANYMORE
    please, no more PMs!

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