4AGE Starter Motor Relocation

[Talasas]

Hi all

I'm wanting to move my starter motor on my 4AGE/C52 from it's default position on the exhaust side to the intake side. Last night though I found that only 1 hole lines up for the starter on the intake side.

Does this mean I need a 4AGZE starter motor to use the intake side?

I've found if I could get one bolt in I could drill the bellhousing on the other side to fit another bolt?

What would be best?

[.:2DR-FTU:.]

No difference between the 4AGZE place and 4AGE. I have a GZE converted to GTE sittin in my garage with the starter in the exact same place... unless it was swapped with the conversion.

[JP]

AE92/AE101 GZE starter is on the inlet side, smallport 4age is on the exhaust side.

You can use a GZE or a 20V starter, the 20V's are on the inlet side too.

[kassma]

Hi All...

Yes the starter motor can not be simply shifted from one side to the other... Unfortunetly, the other side has one of the ends a little bit elongated. IE: It's not a geometrical mount.

But when I had a look at it, just about any starter motor from Camry, 3sge/gte, 20v, etc, as long as the mounting does not look geometrical, it shoudl fit...

Hope that helps...

MIKE.

[Talasas]

Okay, looks like I'll be searching for a new starter then.

No one's tried to drill the bellhousing before? The starter has little grooves on it which allow you to line it up to what I believe is the correct position. Then a mounting hole simply needs to be drilled.

Of course I don't have my block on me atm so I can't see if it will foul the block.

[ehendrikd]

i don't know if they fit at all, but during some trips to the wreckers for another started motor for my 4age, i noticed most fwd 4afe engines have the starter on the inlet side.

[bansheebuzz]

you cant just swap it around as the starter will turn the engine over in the wrong direction.

[Talasas]

No it won't. The engine will always spin clockwise and the starter will always spin anti-clockwise, regardless of it's position on the flywheel.

Thanks guys, I'll have a gander at some 4AFE starters.

[bansheebuzz]

sorry my mistake, i thought you ment move it from clutch side to engine side

[Talasas]

I picked up a 4AFE starter the other day. They fit perfectly, althought it's a lot bigger beefier unit compared to the 4AGE one. It's almost twice as big in fact and I don't have my block atm to check if it even clears it.

While I was at the wreckers I checked the Camry 3S-FE and these will NOT work as they are on the gearbox side and not the engine side. The 4A-C ones also don't work.

It's such a big ugly Bosch unit, I'm wondering if anyone know if the 20V starters are this big?

[oldscool]

does any one know what starters will fit on the exhaust side other than 4age starters? cheers

[Quad 82]

Have just finished doing this conversion on my car, as JP stated you can use 20v starters and GZE units on the inlet side. Only thing I found out is make sure you know what flywheel you are running as GZE or "E" series starters are different to standard 20v in it location by a very small amount.