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    Default Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    hey guys just got a 20v onversion done to my ae93 gti corolla

    kms on engine unknown

    new water pump
    new timing belt
    all new external seals
    new drive shafts
    new excedy clutch
    machined flywheel
    rebuilt gearbox c56 (i think) its just the std 100kw 16v box
    trumpets with redline filters
    ems stinger ecu
    new radiator
    headers

    it made 78.6 fwkw

    i think it has been tuned pretty safe rev limeted at about 7200 as the mechanic said it didnt make any more power after this so it was pointless reving the engine that hard.

    is this true??

    the other thing is you cant feel the vvti kick in not like the twin cam 16v you used to feel it kick in hard with the 20v its smooth power the exhuast note change thats all about 4500 to 5000rpm

    just looking for more power i washoping at about 100fwkw to 120fwkw


    whats mods should be next??

    thinking cams head machining??

    whats sorta bang for my bucks should i be expecting to pay?

    dont want to turbo as it my missus car on p plates still and i like na power better anyways!

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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    Quote Originally Posted by SXY
    the other thing is you cant feel the vvti kick in not like the twin cam 16v you used to feel it kick in hard with the 20v its smooth power the exhuast note change thats all about 4500 to 5000rpm

    Errrr what 16v would vvti would this be?

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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    Quote Originally Posted by Hibba
    Errrr what 16v would vvti would this be?

    NOT VVTI 16V VVTI 20V AND TWIN CAM 16V


    FORGOT TO ADD MY CAR IS STILL RUNNING AIRCON AND POWER STEER WOULD THIS MAKE MY POWER OUTPUT GRATELY LOWER?

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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    FORGOT TO ADD MY CAR IS STILL RUNNING AIRCON .................... WOULD THIS MAKE MY POWER OUTPUT GRATELY LOWER?
    If the tuner was hot and had it on to cool him down while on the dyno it may have sucked a couple of kw

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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    79kW isn't bad for a stock silvertop.

    A set of mild cams and a bit of a port tidy up will get you some more power, but without spending big dollars there isn't a whole lot more to be gained.
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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    Up the compression, cold air intake, cams. All this will help get more power.

    Remove extra weight, back seats, jack, big stereo, air con. This will help make more of what you have.

    I think Id maybe just have a full exhaust and then some work on the suspension to help make the car more fun, rather than just more power on a dyno.
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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    Quote Originally Posted by SXY
    i think it has been tuned pretty safe rev limeted at about 7200 as the mechanic said it didnt make any more power after this so it was pointless reving the engine that hard.
    Did your tuner know that vvt should actually be turned off around 7k -ish rpm? and sometimes you can actually notice a slight kick when it turns off, I forget exactly what rpm factory ecus turn it off, but I've set mine to turn off at round 6800. I'm just suggesting that might be why it stopped making more power over 7200

    yeah, more compression and cams will give you gains, it will be getting expensive though.

    got any pics of your engine bay? I just wanna look at the ramtube / filters
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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    sorry it does have exhasut extractors 4 into 2 into 1 size is 2 1/2" into cats the 2 1/4 cats back with a cannon

    not sure about whether he knew it turns off at 7000ish i definatly didnt know that

    how much $$$$$ am i looking at for cams and a head job! lol i like the sound of that!

    anywhere you can recomend in sydney?

    whats sorta power will the sdt fuel pump and injectors hold out for b4 they max out? or should i be looking to upgrade them soon aswell.

    trying to do everything proply as im never selling this car its going to be 1 i hold onto for years to come!

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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    mmmk the best thing you can do it throw the factory trumpets and airbox back on, they will greatly increase your bottom end and mid range torque, vvt shows best results from being turned on at 3-3500 rmp and off at 6500-6800 rpm, you will not need to upgrade the injectors bout 450 each camshaft, but expect to loose alot of driveabliity, porting? get a die grinder and do it yourself, just be careful around anything valve related
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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    i wouldnt recommed porting your own head if you dont know what the next steps to extracting more n/a power would be - you will ruin a good head

    100-110 fwkw is definitely achievable but you will need aftermarket ecu, cams, compression, custom 4-1 (yes 4-1 not 4-2-1) headers and balancing the whole reciprocating mass including clutch and flywheel to get the extra revs - id also throw in an oil cooler for safety - just remember this will no longer be really driveable in traffic, and will feel like a nugget below 4000rpm

    120fwkw n/a is getting VERY expensive and high tech - thats where tuning for your inlet tract and exhaust as well as the head geometry will come into play - not worth it in my opinion
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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    my silvertop still pulls hard at 7200, i would recomend raising that limit to 8200

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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    if you want any decent powe rthat ypu can brag about and are goin to keep the car then
    save your money and turbo it

    its the best and sort of reliable when done right bang for your buck

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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    whats your budget?

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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    the VVT in stock ECU is switched on at 3000rpm and then off again at 6000rpm.
    Stock redline is 8200rpm.
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    Default Re: Looking For Cheap Power! 20v Silver Ae93

    dont really want to turbo it like na power probly want to spend no more than $2500 on the engine atm

    lost my camera when i find it ill get pics up

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