Carbing a 3S-FE?

[MarkIIRx12]

Hi

I got my hands on a camry with 3s-fe, most of the electrical system and components have burnt, and the car is rusty, new engine is out of the question, but i was wondering if its possible to use manifoilds and carbs from for example a 1S engine? if this is possible, what can i do with the ignition/dizzy? what does this need to run? i just need the minimum of wires to be able to get the dizzy and other critical components working.

Thanks in advance

[o_man_ra23]

How tight a budget are you on?? Aftermarket ECUs come up secondhand occasionally for cheap, so you may be able to snag something with a loom... Also you may be able to get an OEM setup from ebay for cheap (somebody thinking it will sell well and find out only one person wants it and they wont pay more than $50).

Other than that, the port designs of the 1S and 3S-FE are significantly different, so you would need a custom set of manifolds.

Cheers, Owen

[MarkIIRx12]

Thanks for ur answer

Its tight bugdet, or with other words, i dont want to put anymoney towards the electrical system, the only option as i see it is to find a carb and manifoild from a junkyard and hook up the wires needed to get the dizzy working, if its possible.

is there any other manifoild that can fit? is it possible to modify any of the 1s manifoilds, or other more suiting manifoilds easely? with easely modifying im thinking things like bore bigger holes, porting, not reweld or custom make a manifoild since i think thats way to much work on this junk car.

another option could be to drop in a 1s engine, but i dont know much about theese, does anyone have any info on them, like do they run good, reliable, fuel economy etc?

thanks again for ur answers

[o_man_ra23]

Mate, I think your trying to polish a turd there. What is the purpose of this vehicle?? is it cheap transport, track car, something to play with etc??

If it is for transport, I would suggest to fix the 3S-FE's wiring, as they are more reliable than a 1S. And if you dont fix the wiring of the car, it wont be reliable n e ways.

if its something to play with, you will be putting money and time into it, and it just will be a waste.

If it is a track car, the 1S is poo poo and wont give you anywhere near enough power.

Otherwise, I dont think there would be anything close enough in the way of carby manifolds, unless the 22R-C or 20R-C would be close. I think you will need to have a look at what is available, and see if you can find something with the same port spacing, similar port sizes, and similar bolt pattern, but I still think your wasting your time with carbying a 3SFE, as you would need to also get the carby re-jetted to suit, and manufacture a suitable throttle cable.

Cheers, Owen

[gianttomato]

Here in Aus a 3S-FC - ie carbed variant - was released. Maybe see if you can get a carb, manifold and whatever electricals are required shipped across.

I'm tipping that's Virginia USA rather than somewhere in Aus?

[MarkIIRx12]

Virginia usa yes, but im actually in Norway, europe now.

but i maybe skip the camry all together and forget about this car, i have an older corona with S gearbox witch is a daily driver, how about putting the 3s-fe in there, and but new electrical componets and wires, would it be a big problem getting the ecu and everything hooked up and running? i assume its not that big diffrence from wirering a 3s-ge, but is there any good instructions on this?

im also thinking about efing a old 4a with carbs, can this also be wired in the same way as 4age? any good instructions on how to do this?

[BeRad]

why bother puttin the 3sfe in anything? its an arse of an engine and a big waste of money, for me an engine conversion is to improve something, a 3sfe is not improving anything.....just because you have the engine lieing around doesnt mean youll be saving any money in the long run. id just buy a std car and drive it because there is no benefit in conveting a car to run a 3sfe.

[o_man_ra23]

I thought they canned the carbied S series motors after the 2S-FSE was brought out

Cheers, Owen

[mtp_69_i]

why bother puttin the 3sfe in anything? its an arse of an engine and a big waste of money, for me an engine conversion is to improve something, a 3sfe is not improving anything.....just because you have the engine lieing around doesnt mean youll be saving any money in the long run. id just buy a std car and drive it because there is no benefit in conveting a car to run a 3sfe.

agreed 10charries

[MarkIIRx12]

Well the point isnt to improve anything other than fuel economy, and replacing a good reliable engine with a old crappy engine.

since theese cars are just daily drivers, fuel economy and reability is the most important things for me, and a 3s-fe has both thoose things. i also been looking at 3s-ge, but i really dont see the use for that in a old junk car, and then i would have to spend addinoal money just to purchase this motor.

so, i was trying to use what i have, but if its impossible to do in a fairly cheap way, then i will just forget about it.

[mrshin]

Surely you can find another loom etc. pretty cheap from a self-serve wrecking yard? I don't imagine it'd cost much to get a box of Camry parts from my local one, and there's always a line of Camry's there.