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    Question RA28 Engine Upgrade

    1. Does the 18RG slot straight into a 28?

    2. Does the 3T-GTE slot straight into a 28?

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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    18RG is just a different head on an 18R, so yes.
    3T requires a T crossmember, possibly from a TA23, and needs the efi wired up

    1G-GTE shits on all, excuse my french.
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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by TOSCO
    18RG is just a different head on an 18R, so yes.
    That's what I assumed, but I should never JUST assume!

    Quote Originally Posted by TOSCO
    3T requires a T crossmember, possibly from a TA23, and needs the efi wired up
    So, not a very hard conversion then?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOSCO
    1G-GTE shits on all, excuse my french.
    1G-GTE would be a preference, but that would be a harder conversion, yes?

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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    didn't know u were still on these forums mate.. thought u were wrecking ur 22 ?
    wat ya been up 2

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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by 74sLeeka
    EDIT: ignore that, im an idiot.. mistook you for 'TwentyTwo" that'll teach me.. sorry.. dont neg rep me 4 being an idiot
    +rep for admitting idiacy!

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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    The 18R(G) and 3TGTE have different sumps so you need a different engine crossmember.
    The TA23 engine crossmember (kinda rare) bolts into the RA28, (same front end) has the right shape/curve for the 3T sump and the 'right' engine mounts for the 3TGTE.

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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    1JZ!!!!!!!!!
    getting the motor to fit isint as hard as everyone thinks.
    youll have to wire it up but youll have to do that with just about anything thats a bit more modern.
    for my 1jz to ra23 conversion i used standard crossmember, standard steering box, radiator in standard location ( three core though ) and with a bit of jiggery pokerey a 1jz with a w5* box fits very nicely. more power than you can shake a stick at too.....
    latter,
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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by ace
    The 18R(G) and 3TGTE have different sumps so you need a different engine crossmember.
    The TA23 engine crossmember (kinda rare) bolts into the RA28, (same front end) has the right shape/curve for the 3T sump and the 'right' engine mounts for the 3TGTE.

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    What about the gearbox and diff?

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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    If going with the 3tgte use a W5X box

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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by kugzs
    If going with the 3tgte use a W5X box
    Does that require much fitting, and what does that come out of?

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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    Dude theres already so much info on all of these conversions! Just do a search in this forum, and the old forums! Easy as piss....

    The ra28 came stock with an 18rc and a w50 gearbox. If your going to a 18rg then keep your box. It will hold up. If not, get a good cond w50 or look for a w55... The only mods for this will be fuel lines, and throttle lines, radiator. I dont think theres any others...

    For a 3tgte, your going to want a ta22 xmember, or if you can get a front sump 3t then go the ta23 xmember. Mods will probably be the gbox, w55 if not w57 or 58... Then fuel pump, Master cylinder for better stopping, and better brakes. There will be alot of little things...

    If your going 1g then the list goes on, incl diff, brakes, mounts, steering stuff fowling turbos etc etc etc... But once again its all been documented before...

    Have a look around, its really not difficult at all...
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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    not going to repeat what smokey said

    but

    TOSCO'
    18RG is just a different head on an 18R, so yes.
    3T requires a T crossmember, possibly from a TA23, and needs the efi wired up

    1G-GTE shits on all, excuse my french.
    **COUGH 18RGTE or 1JZGTE**
    [QUOTE by 74sLeeka] didn't know u were still on these forums mate.. thought u were wrecking ur 22 ?
    wat ya been up 2

    EDIT: ignore that, im an idiot.. mistook you for 'TwentyTwo" that'll teach me.. sorry.. dont neg rep me 4 being an idiot [/QUOTE]

    worthy of a neg rep in my eyes you relised your mistake yes here is a clap but it was not edited was it so why did you continue with your reply, just wasting valuable toymods bandwith??

    1JZ!!!!!!!!!
    getting the motor to fit isint as hard as everyone thinks.
    youll have to wire it up but youll have to do that with just about anything thats a bit more modern.
    for my 1jz to ra23 conversion i used standard crossmember, standard steering box, radiator in standard location ( three core though ) and with a bit of jiggery pokerey a 1jz with a w5* box fits very nicely. more power than you can shake a stick at too.....
    latter,
    sheepers.
    how you going, with fitting the 1J and front mount were you able to replace the front grill??

    im still waiting on my 15 page document on how to fit a 1JZGTE with W5* into TA/RA23

    no need for documentation on brake and diff upgrade as there is plenty here already
    but everything else would be a treat

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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey228
    For a 3tgte, your going to want a ta22 xmember, or if you can get a front sump 3t then go the ta23 xmember. ...
    What???
    The 3TGTE came out with a W55 so you should use that but the T50 Celica box will bolt up but might not be strong enough....
    The W55, W57, W58 etc all fit in the Celica but you gotta find the right bellhousing to match them up, there are Toyota options though. Tha Transmission crossmember off a automatic TA22 is supposed to be a good fit for the W series boxes...
    Leave the stock diff, it'll be fine for a while.
    I swear all of this info is on the forums already!!!
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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by DQIKST


    worthy of a neg rep in my eyes you relised your mistake yes here is a clap but it was not edited was it so why did you continue with your reply, just wasting valuable toymods bandwith??


    DQIKST
    it was edited when i realised.. and i was thinkin of editing the entire thing.. but i didnt know what to say, if i left the first bit out, it wouldnt make sense..
    its a tiny bit of text, not like it's pictures.. BARELY any.. if that.. bandwith.. if u wanted to get technical and all that, typin what u wrote and having me reply like this has taken up like 3 times as much bandwith
    and without the ability to delete the entire post u'v written.. i dont understand what u wanted me to do..
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    Default Re: RA28 Engine Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey228
    For a 3tgte, your going to want a ta22 xmember, or if you can get a front sump 3t then go the ta23 xmember.
    A TA22 crossmember will not fit into a RA28, different width in the chassis rails.

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