Adelaide Toyoshow 2007

[Starfire]

Like any true enthusiast Lesley knows a lot about her car.

The Aurion probably could have been a contender if it was cleaned and if it were entered for judginig.

It was on display from Toyota Australia.

[AE35]

Thanks Starfire and Blue_Stivo.

Seriously people, this has gone on long enough.

I'm not going to reply here anymore unless its absolutely necessary.

The judges had the last word and their word is final and there isnt anything anyone can do about it.

[BigWorm]

You're missing my point Bigworm.

The category was Original TO 1999.

According to the TCC forum a 1988 model supra won 2000+, a 1994 supra came second in 2000+ and an 89 supra came in third. I guess you could call that being a sore loser as it was an owner of a similar year model car complaining about the inaccurate awards, but really none of these cars were in that category, winners or "losers".


I for one know how hard it is & how much organisation goes into putting on events of this size as I used to be a board member of Toymods, so I appreciate how hard it is to get it all running smoothly & organised well. I guess some credit must go to the effort put in, but some valid points have been made.
The organisers also can't be blamed for the calibre of cars that entered, while there was some genuinely well built & well modified cars there I have a particular dislike of pointless cars, of which there were a few (adding bodykits, shiny wheels, big wings, bad airbrushing, stereos with more power than the engines, "painted hubs", tacky interiors etc to naturally aspirated automatic supras or celicas is something I just don't understand ).

But the judging obviously did leave alot to be desired, especially after reading the thread on TCC. It seems that the judges were simply looking for the cleanest cars, & had no interest in mods that were purposefull or effective. It has been said that maybe this should be changed to encourage more cars that would be classed as tough streeters. Judging cars that are daily driven, make hundreds of kilowatts and competed in the cruise & dyno comp on how clean they are seems to me to miss the point.
But it sounds like there's plenty of people that have voiced similar grievances with the system on TCC.

One of the results I was most dissapointed with was the number plate award. Having ELCARIM (miracle backwards) on an N/A automatic supra with a bodykit & rims doesn't make much sense to me, what is the miracle part? I would have liked to see this one go to a car that has a number plate that goes some way toward tying in with the general theme of the car, & even though the PHNTOM supra & ON FIRE celica were totally not my cup of tea, their no plates at least tied in with some sort of theme on the cars (one was purple like the phantom [] and the other had a half naked fireman painted on the door, & was fire engine red), & to me were more deserving than the miracle supra. But mostly I thought my Cressy, with it's 1JZCYA number plates and 219kW & 12 sec quarter mile credentials was most deserving (call me biased ).

But once again, I know how big a job it all is, & as long as the organisers can take away some ideas to improve the event for next year I guess that can't be a bad thing. Hopefully some of the entrants return with a few more purposefull mods too.

[BigWorm]

A couple more things, it looks like with a good enough clean my daily driver cressida would have been a contender for toyochamp, which I didn't really anticipate (not leaving the cruise after the first stop in a cloud of tyre smoke might also have helped ) as I had higher expectations of other entrants which were ultimately unfullfilled, and also awards for street sleeper and/or (as previously mentioned) tuff streeter, ie cars that have power, handling & stopping ability as well as being clean & even a bit blingy on the outside would be a good idea.

[AE35]

There are some great valid points that have been posted in your reply Bigworm.

It's good to see someone not having a slinging match in here for once.

I for one, would like to see individual 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and 2000+ categories for next years event.

The judges should also have checked the year of manufacture of the participating vehicles to avoid confusion in the categories that were present this year.

I believe some categories were pulled due to not enough entrants when the Toyoshow award plates had been made and therefore there was no pre-1985 category this year for example.

All in all, its a learning curve for the organisers and entrants on what they can improve on next year. I'd also like to see the judges stick to a certain criteria for certain categories, not just the cleanest overall vehicle, as this would make the competition more fierce and more demanding on the judges.

For the 1986.5 MA70 Supra that placed 3rd in the Original To 1999 category which was owned by my best friend, I had no idea that the bonnet's had to be up for judging so I got to work detailing that engine bay as soon as I found out that her vehicle was being judged and it had a filthy engine bay to begin with.

Maybe with the entrant information packs that are sent out in the future, there should also be a general listing as to what the judges will be looking for when judging each car. This way people will actually be prepared for the event and the standard of the vehicles will be raised and this will make the competition more even throughout the field.

Also in saying that, having vehicles that hadn't even been detailed "Prius for example" shouldn't have been allowed on the ground as I'm pretty sure I read that all vehicles entering the show and shine had to be clean upon arrival.

That's my 2c worth anyway and I sure don't expect people to 100% agree with some of the things I have stated above. Just don't think I'm singling anyone out, because I'm not.

[jonchai]

^^ that is true, despite the Entrant Form saying the cars had to be clean and presentable, two cars were muddy and dirty! whilst i can see that a "Theme" may have been working with the GT4..the Prius should not have been on the ground..let alone 2 awards.

Thumbs-Up for all organisers involved and all entrants that tried or attended on the day. If there was a "Backyard Mechanic" award or a "Ghetto Mod" i may have won something. but such is not my luck with the 162

as for judges looking for clean cars....well...cars that are actually driven (which is their purpose) generally aren't clean. that limits trailer whores to the award.

i liked that Japanese-only Toyota...i think it was called the Will???? i thought it was odd..and ugly...but i actually liked it.

[MWP]

i liked that Japanese-only Toyota...i think it was called the Will???? i thought it was odd..and ugly...but i actually liked it.

I think you have problems

[HKS_TRD]

For what its worth I offered to return the post 2000 award I got on Toyotacarclub.net, I was a little stumped to receive it, my car is 89 and its modified not original?

[ashbox]

the catergories were according to toyoshow.com rules and regs

Original: Up to 1985

Original: 1986 to 2000

Millenium: 2001 up

original categories allowed mods only if they didn't attract form the original apperance.

its all on the website
www.toyoshow.com

[mtp_69_i]

I think you have problems

2nded

I've got some snaps from the day. Should we improve this thread a bit or start a new one?

[BLUEWIRE]

Hi Everyone,

There have been a few questions raised about some of the awards given out at the 2007 Adelaide Toyoshow. We hope that the following information will help to clear up some of the confusion.

Firstly we would like to say a few words about the judging of the show. The judges are professional, independent judges from the Street Machine Association of South Australia (SMASA), who have many years of experience judging show cars.

The most important thing in judging a car at a show is cleanliness, followed closely by attention to detail. There were considerable point deductions for dirt and the judges were looking closely at things like under doors and the bottoms of engines. Getting your car detailed and steam cleaned went a long way towards your total point count. There were also deductions for things like floor mats and seat covers, as well as not having the entire car open during the inspection process (boot, bonnet, doors, etc.).

Many spectators and entrants have expressed that they believe that Entrant 5 purple PHNTOM Supra should have won the 2007 Toyochamp award. Let me be the first to say that his car is an exceptional example and that it indeed scored very well, however it lost out on points due to the engine bay not being cleaned and/or detailed fully. There was some misinformation floating around that his bonnet was not open during judging, but I have confirmed that this was not the case.

Entrant 1 a AE112R Corolla Levin Turbo, while not highly modified, was exceptionally clean, well maintained and presented at the show, & also met the other prerequisites for the Toyochamp Award of having attended the supercruise and dyno day events. This car's winning is a good illustration that you don’t have to have a big dollar show car to do well at the Toyoshow.

The final issue we would like to address is that of the trophies for the pre 1985 class and the 2000+ class.

At the time the trophies were ordered, there were no entries for the (Original to 1986 to 2000) class. As entries came in, they were added to the (Original to 1999) class for judging. For next year’s show we will order trophies for all of the listed classes, as we now know that we will get sufficient entries closer to the day of the show.

There were only two entries for the (Original 2000+) class, being Entrant 1 a AE112R Toyota Corolla and Entrant 37 a Toyota Hybird Prius. As Entrant 1 had won the 2007 Toyochamp award the car was not eligible for the (Original 2000+) trophy. Entrant 37 won first place in the category. It was decided to issue the 2 extra trophies from that category was to be changed to a 4th in (Modified) and a 4th in (Original to 1999), however this was not mentioned by the M.C. during the presentation. Entrant 17 a 1989 Toyota Supra and Entrant 5 a 1995 Toyota Supra have been notified of this, and will be sent replacement placards indicating the correct names for their trophies, which they can affix in place of the existing ones.

We hope that this has cleared up some of the confusion, and would like to thank you all for attending, either as a spectator, entrant or sponsor. We look forward to seeing you at our show next year.



With regards,

Adelaide Toyoshow Management Team

[mtp_69_i]

Jon Chai's race prep'd 162


Ashbox's GT4


unknown vert complete with SX dash (240km/hr) and rear disc conversion + custom interior and sound system and specky paint


Nice looking two tone soarer


Bluewire's very tidy RA40


loving the supercharger


RA23 (?) with an amazingly tidy 1ggze swap. This car was my pic for the entrants choice. I have a few more pics if the owner is interested in getting them


There were plenty of Supras on the day. One example...

[BigWorm]

Hmmm, maybe the no. plate award was given to the car with the cleanest custom no. plate.....

[BLUEWIRE]

Hmmm, maybe the no. plate award was given to the car with the cleanest custom no. plate.....

Very Funny BigWorm... But it was a good thought of plate though ....hey
Hope you guys had a great time sorry about the 40o heat.
We will be there next year.....

[twentyEight]

It should have been your RA40 that won Toyochamp there BLUEWIRE... That's neat as!