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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    Quote Originally Posted by ed_jza80
    goodyear have release a new line of belts. mainly pitched at the big boys (nascar, lemans etc) and ive been meaning to look into it.... they sound pretty good
    They fixed the belt dramas then they started breaking belt tensioners thats why they changed to the 2GR because it has chain driven cams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *rivmasta*
    Cheers for the correction on the jimco. its gonna be 2gr next year too isnt it?

    Yeah - 2GR would be nice for cl1... and you can buy them as crate motors from toyota as long as you sell your house, car, wife and give them your firstborn, hence the 3mz option - besides, 3mz will bolt straight to our 1uz adaptor.
    Team Kittle are putting the 3.5L in the Jimco and Rentch has the Chenowth back and is putting in a 3.5 L TT Nissan and is going to run as part of Team Kittle
    Gary out of interest can you PM the price Toyota wants for the 2GR-FE crate motor please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by off-road
    Team Kittle are putting the 3.5L in the Jimco and Rentch has the Chenowth back and is putting in a 3.5 L TT Nissan and is going to run as part of Team Kittle
    Jebus!!!! He'll be froking unstoppable!!!! A nissan engined buggy sponsored by kittle toyota though????

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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    Kittle sells Nissans too ..... and Holdens and Hondas and........

    Gary can you PM me how much Toyota wanted for the crate motor please.

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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    there's also the transport co too I suppose...

    will do!

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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    Quote Originally Posted by *rivmasta*
    Hey Ed, seen you floating about on Lextreme...

    Destroke is definately doable for <3 grand. It'd end out a massively oversqare block - great for revving it like a hummingbird - but not as good for torque as a 3.5 V6, and torque wins races, esp in offroad...

    Eh?
    Stroke has nothing to do with torque, it's purely capacity & cylinder filling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzilla
    Eh?
    Stroke has nothing to do with torque, it's purely capacity & cylinder filling.
    sorry, I didnt phrase that very well!

    3.5ltr V8 isnt as torqey as the 3.5 V6 due to the reduced individual cylinder capacity. I'd rather be using low revs and torque than high revs and HP.

    Mind you, I also want the VVT too which is why Im lookin gat the V6...

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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    It's not a toyota but a Nissan VQ35 would fit the bill. 3.5L 206kw, or even holden's new Alloytech 3.5L

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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    Quote Originally Posted by jfallen
    It's not a toyota but a Nissan VQ35 would fit the bill. 3.5L 206kw, or even holden's new Alloytech 3.5L

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    I thought the Alloytech was 3.6L
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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    Yeah, & its a pushrod motor as well.
    Mind you, you can't adjust the individual cam timing on the bigger Toyota motors either.

    I want a 2GR-GE (GZE would be good too )

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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    Quote Originally Posted by wagonist
    Yeah, & its a pushrod motor as well.
    Um the Alloytec/HFV6 190/195kw is not a pushrod motor thats the ecotec motors.

    But yes they are 3.6L, 3.2L versions exist in Alfa's and a few other overseas models.
    If in doubt power out

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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    I'd say the 3MZ heads will flow better than the UZ ones, at least the non VVT UZ so you are ahead of the game there over a de-stroked UZ. Remember the golden rule in engine mods as well, don't try and make an engine what it's not. Destroking would invariably result in some unforssen problem i reckon.

    The 3MZ won't bolt to your UZ adaptor...totally different bellhousing pattern on the block. MZ blocks are very similar to 3S bellhousing bolt pattern which unfortunately in not similar to the UZ.

    Why the hush hush on the price of a crate GR?....save us the suspense and just post the numbers here.
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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8
    I'd say the 3MZ heads will flow better than the UZ ones, at least the non VVT UZ so you are ahead of the game there over a de-stroked UZ. Remember the golden rule in engine mods as well, don't try and make an engine what it's not. Destroking would invariably result in some unforssen problem i reckon.

    The 3MZ won't bolt to your UZ adaptor...totally different bellhousing pattern on the block. MZ blocks are very similar to 3S bellhousing bolt pattern which unfortunately in not similar to the UZ.

    Why the hush hush on the price of a crate GR?....save us the suspense and just post the numbers here.
    VQ35 huh? alloy or cast iron block? is this a non turbo engine?

    3MZ and 1UZ have different bolt patterns huh???? bastard. I was told that the 1UZ/1MZ was the same bolt pattern, then again that the 1MZ/3MZ are the same... As for the price of the 2GR - I'll check to make sure Im not going to get anyone into trouble first!

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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    Quote Originally Posted by *rivmasta*
    VQ35 huh? alloy or cast iron block? is this a non turbo engine?
    All alloy. Non turbo, up to 221kw depending on what it came from.
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    Default Re: 3MZ for the racecar?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustCallMeOrlando
    All alloy. Non turbo, up to 221kw depending on what it came from.
    Whats the dimensions though aren't they physcially a huge motor look at the bay of a Z32 (with the 3L version) decent sized bay very little space left.

    There heaps of 350z's around surely one would pop up at a pickles auction that been reamed in the arse
    If in doubt power out

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