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    Junior Member Backyard Mechanic 1jzracing's Avatar
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    Default 1GGTE need better clutch!

    just spent the last 2 weeks putting a 1gg into my e30 bm with a nice little tube manifold and HKS 2540, is200 6 speed and wolf 3D

    well i got it going on the weekend, not fully tuned yet but its VERY strong!

    problem arose straight away the clutch appears to be slipping on anything over 12psi

    the one im using looks quite new it came from the importer when i bought the engine,
    faint possability it could be an atmo one i dont know

    anyone know of a straight fit clutch thats a tad stronger doesnt cost the earth and who / where to get one in NSW

    my first play with a 1gg so have little knowlege or contacts for whats available what works and whats interchangable? .... love it already

    cheers
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    I got an exedy HHD 5 puck ceramic one
    works really well, cost $490
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    I've used a Centerforce clutch behind my 1GGZE for years and never had any slip issues.

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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    Quote Originally Posted by emp?
    I got an exedy HHD 5 puck ceramic one
    works really well, cost $490

    really DONT want a ceramic puck style for the street this is my dayly driver so its organic all the way

    where to get and how much is this centerforce clutch mentioned on the next post ??

    cheers
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    PBR heavy duty are about 250 ish.

    i havent had any problems with mine yet. running 16psi.

    no problems at the drags the other night either....and i definately wasnt going easy on it
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    I have a heavy duty Exedy clutch plate on an uprated factory pressure plate. It cops 18psi every day, and hasn't failed me with multiple passes to the drags and over 25000km of driving.
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    Quote Originally Posted by JustCallMeOrlando
    ...with multiple passes to the drags and over 25000km of driving.
    But you are soft

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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    I think that you are going to experience problems with any stock organic clutch. One thing that I have seen that seems to work well is using twin diaphragms fitted to the stock pressure plate. The problem is finding a clutch place that knows what they're doing and will do it for you.

    OS Giken twin plate is quite nice to use, I much prefer it over the old ceramic button that I had. My wife actually preferred the ceramic (note: this means ceramic = girl's clutch, so should be good enough for you). Car was used for everyday street driving and I put over 150,000m of everyday street driving on the ceramic clutch BUT I would not go back to it from my twin plate if I could help it at all.
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    cheers for all your input

    i think ive narrowed down what i want

    puck style ..... too harsh
    twin plate ...... too expensive

    all im looking for is an affordable upgraded prerssure plate, im only looking at mild combo 15psi or so its not a race car and i DONT want something thats hard to push

    call me soft but im into comfort.... i have a race car

    Quote Originally Posted by JustCallMeOrlando
    I have a heavy duty Exedy clutch plate on an uprated factory pressure plate. It cops 18psi every day, and hasn't failed me with multiple passes to the drags and over 25000km of driving.
    this sounds good who did the upgrade to the factory pressure plate? cost?
    and whats the pedal like??

    i would emagine that having twin diaphrams fitted as mentioned would make it really heavy on the foot
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    Can't tell you how much the Centerforce clutch cost new as I bought it 2nd hand. It looks like a normal single plate clutch with the exception that it has weights on the fingers. At idle the clutch feels normal but as you rev, the weights fly outwards and exert increased pressure on the clutch face. As I said, it's behind a 1GGZE and has never slipped (and it's an organic clutch plate).

    For your interest though, puck style clutches have come a long way in recent years. They are not like the harsh clutches of 10 years ago. I suggest talking to a specialist brake and clutch supplier. There are a few in sydney but not sure of the names. Perhaps someone can list some.

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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    Quote Originally Posted by 1jzracing
    this sounds good who did the upgrade to the factory pressure plate? cost?
    and whats the pedal like??
    I rang up a place in Perth called "The Clutch Factory" and they hooked me up. Cost $418 in the end from memory, including new clutch plate, uprated pressure plate, machined flywheel, new thrust bearing...hehe, and they painted it purple for the bling i'll never see
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    Quote Originally Posted by wilbo666
    But you are soft
    The black lines all the way along the Nullarbor say that phase is over
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    I have a Daikin / Exedy cushioned button setup. ie. Twin plate brass button with cushion jammed between. Could be comprimise if you dont want it to be too harsh. Uprated pressure plate didn't cost the earth. Whats your budget?

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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    Oh, forgot to mention it's firm, but far from hard, very nice to use. It's my daily driver, and my gf never complains about the clutch driving it.
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    Default Re: 1GGTE need better clutch!

    What is it with these companies painting clutch pressure plates purple ACS do that as well with the Xtreme range!

    I've got some exedy organic clutch plate with xtreme heavy duty pressure plate. Can't remember the price sorry, but there are many more options out there now. Clamp load is probably the main thing to look out for, as long as you don't destroy the slave cylinder!

    Maybe a cusion button is the answer?

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