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    Default 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    Is there anything you can do to a 5M-E to make it have just that little more oomf?

    I've got a 5m-e powered auto MX63 cressida with 315,000 on it and my friend thinks his with 175 000 on it goes worse.

    Mine has the emissions air injection system disconnected would that have something to do with it?
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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    no.



    seriously - performance and 5ME is an oxymoron.

    Unless you want the car to remain factory standard (and if you're into restoration, that's a good thing) - get a better M-series engine.

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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    oh well, thanks.

    A new airfilter and some other general tune up items like plugs some injector clean etc might help him out a bit.

    until the engine grows a second cam...
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    1982 Toyota Cressida MX62R GL EFI "The Cress Cress"
    5M-E - A43D
    Soaring Above A Sea Of Holdens

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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    It will never be a fantastic engine so it really isn't worth throwing money at. If it is working then I would settle with that!

    You would gain a few HP form removing the Air Pump (emissions)...not much tho.

    Btw MX63? It's an import?! (IRS )

    Cheers
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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    Quote Originally Posted by 88_gz20
    A new airfilter and some other general tune up items like plugs some injector clean etc might help him out a bit.
    I've got a 5ME, extractors, 2.25' zorst, K&N pod filter (no airbox at current), removed the resonator for straight through pipe, got new plugs, oil filter etc and it got dyno'd and tuned to 91rwkw. Does your mate have a dyno readout by any chance? Might give you an indication of how these things might help.

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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    just slap a CT26 on it, pump 15 psi through it, blow it up, and then put either a 6MGE or a 7MG(T)E in it.

    5M for teh lose.

    Eldar.O.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EldarO
    just slap a CT26 on it, pump 15 psi through it, blow it up, and then put either a 6MGE or a 7MG(T)E in it.
    With what? You just blew all your money on a CT26 and those 5ME tubro headers are a tad rare

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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    I have a good nick 5MGE sitting here doing nothing if you're interested. Going cheap.....

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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    Quote Originally Posted by RObErT_RaTh
    With what? You just blew all your money on a CT26 and those 5ME tubro headers are a tad rare
    stainless steel, mandrel bent, polished pipes, with HKS joiners will do that to ya though.

    7MGTE turbo manifold should fit, if not, cut flange off, weld 5ME flange on.

    connect exhaust with steam pipe, shit, even use galvanised gutter tube, again, using factory supra/soarer turbo dump/flange.

    connect turbo to afm, route outlet of turbo straight into the throttle body.

    including a decent CT26 for $250 (mine was $150 not including shipping) + all other bits

    turbo 5M for under $400-500 bucks, not bad, and besides, you could hire the gear out to people, who want to kill their 5M's too.

    the gear is sure to last more than 20 or so 5M's, $50 a pop, you actually make money!

    Eldar.O.

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    Don't tempt be to turbo a 5M... must.... resist....argh!

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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    7mgte manifold will not fit

    But I happen to have a MTEU manifold and turbo!!!!! You know you want to get in contact with me an try to buy it

    Will bolt up!

    All you need is a mteu dizzy and you should be good to go

    Cheers
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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    i'm not looking for more power from it i have the soarer for going faster (well 1g-gte...a bit faster) i just bought as a run around with room for friends at as i got it for 100 bucks and it runs ok with no sludge or water in the oil.

    The air injection system has been removed from mine, well the metal pipes to the pump have been removed and the holes in the exhaust manifold bolted up, but the pump remains on the engine, i would remove it but the power steering pump runs on the same belt.

    seriously a ct26 (or even a ct12 ) plus 315 000 km old 5-me that would be a laugh id give it start up put it in drive and accelerate as soon as the needle on the boost gague flickered a mm it would send a piston into the sump in lots of small pieces.

    Sorry it is MX62R not MX63 solid rear axle, i hadn't had a real good look at the build plate i knew it was one of the two.
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    1G-GTE - A340E
    1982 Toyota Cressida MX62R GL EFI "The Cress Cress"
    5M-E - A43D
    Soaring Above A Sea Of Holdens

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    1988 Toyota Soarer GZ20 GT TWIN turbo L "The Landyacht"
    1G-GTE - A340E
    1982 Toyota Cressida MX62R GL EFI "The Cress Cress"
    5M-E - A43D
    Soaring Above A Sea Of Holdens

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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    Quote Originally Posted by 88_gz20
    The air injection system has been removed from mine, well the metal pipes to the pump have been removed and the holes in the exhaust manifold bolted up, but the pump remains on the engine, i would remove it but the power steering pump runs on the same belt.
    So the whole point of removing it is mainly to reduce load on the engine. If you've still got the belt hooked up with it running then what's the point?

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    Default Re: 5M-E performance (or lack of)

    I've got a 5-ME with around the same amount of k's
    just had the head machined. i adjusted the air flow metre a few clicks leaner which gave it a little smoother accel. and slightly better fuel economy...

    cheers ...vinno...

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