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    my rod's bigger!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmick
    yep that bloody carrillo that has been making the H-beam rods for most forms of racing for many years have no idea: Even TRD make them for the race engines. It all comes down to application and cost
    perhaps you should email that to them

    from an engineering standpoint, it is less the overall shape, and more where the metal actually is..
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    email what to them?

    were the metal is would be its shape, wouldnt it?heheheheh

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmick
    In english " Another key element of the evaluation project was looking at the benefits of switching to fracture split steels,which allow the ‘big-end’ of a conrod to be separated into rod and end-cap,along a pre-determined fracture line.This subsequently ensures a perfect fit between the two halves."
    literally in english thought it looked familiar
    http://www.newmaterials.com/news/3862.asp
    and the purpose is not for more strength, it is to reduce machining steps...

    the strength part was by using different alloys..... they already use "cost effective" alloys, and there are many better ones... but like everything it is about cheapest possible effective product.
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    ah sweet article OC. great to see some people can acknowledged sources here

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas
    literally in english thought it looked familiar
    http://www.newmaterials.com/news/3862.asp
    My god, you are truly the google master. Hats off to you on that one
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatthe?
    My god, you are truly the google master. Hats off to you on that one
    no, Mick put it in quotation marks anyway.. but it depends how you read the article...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas
    no, Mick put it in quotation marks anyway.. but it depends how you read the article...
    True, but it's still no mean feat to find the exact same source on teh intahweb. I remain in awe
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    dude - plug and play the phrase straight into google
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    http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...e+Search&meta=

    I did, but couldnt be assed trying different variations/lengths
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas
    literally in english thought it looked familiar
    http://www.newmaterials.com/news/3862.asp
    and the purpose is not for more strength, it is to reduce machining steps...

    the strength part was by using different alloys..... they already use "cost effective" alloys, and there are many better ones... but like everything it is about cheapest possible effective product.
    Yes but as i said, i had to find the file, was trying to workout how to get it from PDF formate to show you on here. If i had that web page would have been much easyer.lol
    i had to copy lines at a time and paste it together just to get the small bit of the article above as its a small section of a pdf with other stuff that isnt about rods!

    Da Horse piss of wanker i did quote, i always show if it isnt my words unless its an over sight. Unlike you, my car knowledge isnt 99.9% internet and magazine knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed_jza80
    dude - plug and play the phrase straight into google
    Hahahaha wish i had thought to do that! would have saved me 20 minutes of rooting around.

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    Found the original link, another 15 minutes of my time wasted search for it .http://www.corusautomotive.com/file_.../emotion10.pdf.

    as you can see not much relevent to rods but the main aticle i wanted to but in did!
    I dont know why i bother sometimes.No if someone can tell me how to covert the clipboard snap shot into a file that can be uploaded and veiwed it will save me time next time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmick
    Yes but as i said, i had to find the file, was trying to workout how to get it from PDF formate to show you on here. If i had that web page would have been much easyer.lol
    i had to copy lines at a time and paste it together just to get the small bit of the article above as its a small section of a pdf with other stuff that isnt about rods!
    fairy nuff.. this one? this one?? (edit: bah, beaten by one minute )
    still.. fracture split is for cost saving...

    I beam is for F1...

    both I beam and H beam aftermarket rods are better than stock

    ibeam with a more triangular base is what i would choose, but the debate about which is better has been going on for many years with no clear winner (and much heresay.. ie I beam is not good for high rpm etc)


    use "prt scr" or whatever button, then paste into a imaging program.. then save as jpeg.. then upload...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed_jza80
    but the argument has been going on for a while now, and i dont think there is a universal answer.
    2nd post.....
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