Engine mount dilema

[HAVABEER]

hey fella's i'm after some advice and maybe the help from someone with an oxy torch

yesterday i started to pull out the drivers side engine (west) mount from my st162. this mount has 2 press studs the sit in a bracket attached to the engine, and then get bolted up.

now my problem lies in the fact that one of the press studs has come lose or rounded off (i think its both) and i can't remove or tighten the nut as both spin freely.

i cant get access to the top of the stud either as the mount is welded around it.

after alot of fiddling i've come to the conclusion that i'm gonna need to get it oxy cut out just due to the lack of space and manuverability of the engine.

if anyone can suggest any other way of getting this bolt off i'd be happy. or if someone can come oxy cut it out for me i could pass a carton of beer there way or something.

here's some pics.

this just shows the engine mount and the amount of space between it and the engine.


this is a shot from underneath. show's the 2 studs and nuts.the one towards the top is the nut in question


this one show's my spare mount and how i just don't have access to the stud from either side.



but yeah any advice would be appreciated fella's

[jonra23]

Looks like you could get a nut splitter in there.
Pick one up at Supercheap or similar for about the price of a carton.
Would be a bit less scary then waving an oxy about.


http://www.powerbuilttools.co.nz/powerbuiltgeneral.htm

regards
jon

[urantia]

i have the same issue with this celica i'm working on now rounded those bolts. (they were alreayd rounded off) the design of them seems prone to rounding off.

What i did was i got an imperial socket that was just a tad smaller and belted it on nice and tight then was able to get the long extension with breaker bar and break those nuts loose and never use them again!

(misread havebeers issue, ignore the above post of mine)

[HAVABEER]

urantia i prob should of made it a bit clearer.....its not the actual nut or bolt thats threaded.


its the actual head of the stud that gets belted into place that has come loose. i can still the right sized socket onto the nut fine.....just both the nut and stud spin at the same time so i can't get it to come lose, or tighten back up

[urantia]

dam your in a pickle. sorry i couldn't help you out.

[takai]

From looking at the mount you may be able to jam a screwdriver into the side of the mount and press downwards, effectively forcing the rubber to compress against the stud and maybe lock it up. If you need more pressure then drill a small pilot and use a circluar wedge for the same purpose.

[NeoNasty]

I also had problems taking mine off.

I rounded it, like a jack ass. The way we got it off, was to weld a socket onto the nut and breaker bar it off from there. I jkeep it as a memento not to rush things like that.

I know your problem is different, and I can tell you that that steel is hella hard, I tried drilling out the nut, using an air-saw to cut it, and the smaller socket hammered on trick.

I think if you try to oxy it, you'll melt the cam belt covers for sure. Use that as an absolute LAST option.

["Z" UTE]

LikeTakai said, you need to exert some force/pressure to the underside of the mount, effectively locking the stud back into the mount. Drop your crossmember, and let the engine hang on the mount, should give you enough pressure.

cheers Chuck.

[takai]

LikeTakai said, you need to exert some force/pressure to the underside of the mount, effectively locking the stud back into the mount. Drop your crossmember, and let the engine hang on the mount, should give you enough pressure.

cheers Chuck.

That will work too, and probably easier to test than my method.

[The Witzl]

could you not just unbolt the part from the front of the engine where this engine mount is bolted to??

You can do that with a 4A, so why not a 3S?

[Dale]

Good idea Karl.. but I think he still has the timing covers on which would block access to those bolts, and I don't think you can get the timing covers off with the engine mount still on? It blocks access to a couple of the bolts holding it on I think.

[takai]

Similar to a 4AGZE in that regard. Although with a 4A you can usually just squeeze a spanner in to undo the bolts.

[-==L=a=N=c=E==-]

You could remove the mount off the engine, and slide it out also. And then worry about it once it is out of the car.


Although difficulty is +++

[The Witzl]

Good idea Karl.. but I think he still has the timing covers on which would block access to those bolts, and I don't think you can get the timing covers off with the engine mount still on? It blocks access to a couple of the bolts holding it on I think.

ANSWER = use a bigger hammer.

[HAVABEER]

yeah i've thought a bit more about it and i ithink i'm either gonna have to:

A: take drive shafts out, disconnect alot of ancillaries, borrow and engine crane and lift the engine out enough to get access to the mount.

B: unbolt it 1/8th of a turn at a time off the side of the engine and hope i can slide it out that way.

either it's gonna be alot of pissfarting around i think.

also i tried to lower the engine and it didnt really work out.