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    Thumbs down Trouble matching paint Code. 1973 RT104

    I own a 1973 RT104GT.

    This is the colour.





    CODE is 913. Interior FF41 (Tan)

    Nearest AUSSIE paint code is 916 reddish Purple or 910 French (Champ) Purple.

    Its a metallic base with a prismatic overlay.

    For those who dont know what that is.

    Sometimes a car looks like this..In summer



    And in some light sometimes it looks like this in winter when wet.




    Both examples of Candy Toffee Apple red with prismatic overlay on my SHOCK HORROR its a DATSUN..

    We made a litre of Purple for the Toyota stone chips by starting with TOYOTA CODE 916 and moving backwards with a bit of this and a bit of that.

    The amounts were inaccurately measured and at $100 per litre its too expensive to experiment.

    I need 4 litres of Acryllic, PGP anyone willing to try?

    or can find the forumula for 913 from Japan if you know anyone and can speak the lingo.

    It is not on ANY website anywhere in the world and TOYOTA can't/won't assist.
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    Default Re: Trouble matching paint Code. 1973 RT104

    A mate of mine owned a 'ronna that was the same colour, it is called GRAPE.
    Closet I have seen in a long time, is Ford XY GT "Wild Violet" , with a lavender pearl in the clear coat.

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    Default Re: Trouble matching paint Code. 1973 RT104

    Any decent car paint shop should be able to find the color in thier manuals.
    I took at RT104 color code (Stormy Blue) into a paint shop, its took them ~15mins to find it in the books, but they did find it.

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    2 things,
    MWP - was your colour an aussie colour?? I believe what RT104GT is saying is that because its an import, the colour is not available in the manuals.

    RT104GT - why are you painting a GT with metallic and pearl in acrylic?? why would you not paint in 2pak?? Aside from that, somebody who is really good at paint matching may be able to work out the formula for you. Or you could try a place who has a computerised colour scanner.

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    Default Re: Trouble matching paint Code. 1973 RT104

    Quote Originally Posted by MWP
    Any decent car paint shop should be able to find the color in thier manuals.
    I took at RT104 color code (Stormy Blue) into a paint shop, its took them ~15mins to find it in the books, but they did find it.

    913 is not in any book its a JDM colour. Thanks we looked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23
    2 things,
    MWP - was your colour an aussie colour?? I believe what RT104GT is saying is that because its an import, the colour is not available in the manuals.

    RT104GT - why are you painting a GT with metallic and pearl in acrylic?? why would you not paint in 2pak?? Aside from that, somebody who is really good at paint matching may be able to work out the formula for you. Or you could try a place who has a computerised colour scanner.

    Cheers, Owen
    ANSWER 1/. Its a japanese Domestic model never seen here one only brought in.


    2/. 913 is not in any paint book. As to why I am re-painting it in purple as that is the genuine and original colour and thius is not a conversion.

    Would you paint a gold XR GT in blue?


    http://carocam.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sedan-gt/GT-corona.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by RT104GT
    ANSWER 1/. Its a japanese Domestic model never seen here one only brought in.


    2/. 913 is not in any paint book. As to why I am re-painting it in purple as that is the genuine and original colour and thius is not a conversion.

    Would you paint a gold XR GT in blue?


    http://carocam.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sedan-gt/GT-corona.htm
    I didnt ask why u were painting purple. I was asking why u are using the inferior acrylic paint over the more desirable 2Pak. Also I was agreeing with you about the colour being JDM never seen in aus. I just suggested that you should go somewhere that has a computerised colour matcher... they will be able to create the formula from a scan.

    Cheers, Owen
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    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23
    I didnt ask why u were painting purple. I was asking why u are using the inferior acrylic paint over the more desirable 2Pak. Also I was agreeing with you about the colour being JDM never seen in aus. I just suggested that you should go somewhere that has a computerised colour matcher... they will be able to create the formula from a scan.

    Cheers, Owen

    Sorry owen
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    The acryllic is pretty good from 1989. The inside door silss and tops of doors are very good.
    Transitting from one paint type to another at this stage is not worth the trouble.
    The car was dipped and baked in Acryllic inside and out so to preserve the type and colour matching that's what stays for now thanks.

    Did the door handles today and paint is in very good nick under coverings so outside of doors is going to be buffed and detailed and should suffice.

    Just hope they did enough clear back in 89.

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    Default Re: Trouble matching paint Code. 1973 RT104

    Quote Originally Posted by RT104GT
    ANSWER 1/. Its a japanese Domestic model never seen here one only brought in.


    2/. 913 is not in any paint book. As to why I am re-painting it in purple as that is the genuine and original colour and thius is not a conversion.

    Would you paint a gold XR GT in blue?


    http://carocam.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sedan-gt/GT-corona.htm
    RT104GT wasn't the car repainted in another purple at some stage? isn't that why you want to repaint it in the original colour?

    i don't speak Jap so ... http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
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    Quote Originally Posted by RT104GT
    Sorry owen
    reason
    The acryllic is pretty good from 1989. The inside door silss and tops of doors are very good.
    Transitting from one paint type to another at this stage is not worth the trouble.
    The car was dipped and baked in Acryllic inside and out so to preserve the type and colour matching that's what stays for now thanks.

    Did the door handles today and paint is in very good nick under coverings so outside of doors is going to be buffed and detailed and should suffice.

    Just hope they did enough clear back in 89.
    Did you know that acrylic and 2Pak will blend?? 2Pak is based on acrylic, but has been modified to use a hardener. It will last a lot longer than acrylic. Also you may consider re-coating with a 2Pak clear. That will give it a nice hard glossy exterior which as stated, acrylic will blend with.

    Cheers, Owen
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