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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    ....i found my old solex was easier to tune then my webber 32/36....biggest mistake I ever made was changing over....
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Quote Originally Posted by river View Post
    Hi,

    Nahh, The 88 is cool. Like me, she understands there are the talented few who can tune Solex and have them singing sweetly, and the vast majority who can't.

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    All carby's can run smoothly it is just the clowns who tune them that make them run better. Some are better than others.


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    both correct statements although one underlying factor is CA$H. am i willing to pay 450 for a redbuild and tune on my solex's i dont think so.

    i love my carbies but they really arnt worth spending money on. its either i pay $450~ for a tune on the solex's or $800~ each for a set of webers.
    or i sit at home with my screw driver trying to aimlessly tune them by reading from a book until ive made it worse and pay $150 for a clown to make them all better, well almost better

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    Hi,

    You're looking at around $700 to get a set of Solex carbs tuned for an 18R-G/2T-G engine, and that includes a full rebuild, 'cos they've probably never been rebuilt since they wer enew, and the gaskets would be hard an leaky, the float shot and not floating properly, the inner venturis adjusted and tightened, and the diaphrams cracked and hard. The jets probably need replacing and adjusting.

    You'll never get your old Solex tuned properly if they are 30+ years old and in dire need of a rebuild.

    Yes, a rebuild isn't cheap, bit it is not like you need one every year.. or even every 10 years.

    Most people complain about $700 to fix the carbs that will make your engine feel like a new motor, but are happy to spend more on a sound system for the car.

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    so the $450 must have been just the rebuild then.

    hmm where do you take them to do the rebuild/tune river? that place at burwood?

    the sound system in my car is all second hand running off a 1990's deck really no need for the music not like i can hear it with my exahust
    Cheers, Alex

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    Hi,

    For anything carby related I go to Kleinigs. They're out near Windsor, just off Windsor road about 200 metres before the new parkway thingo that goes into Windsor.

    That $700 would include the rebuild and tune and possibly a dyno run to check it all.

    Call them on 4577 7221 and ask for Daniel.

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Someone mentioned in a wanted thread I had up not too long ago, that the 22R flywheel is the same as the 18R flywheel... Can anyone confirm whether this is the case or not?
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Exactly correct, used an 18R flywheel on a 22R without issue. RA40 and RA65 use the same clutch kit.

    Ninja edit: RA40 and RA60 also use the same clutch slave cylinder, which is different to the early W50 clutch slave of the RA23/28 which is adjustable.
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    excellent... Thanks for that
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    And a M series clutch and pressure plate will interchange also
    Cheers Brett.

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Something IMPORTANT to note:

    Some time ago, I mentioned in this thread that the upper thermostat housing for a KE30 (Kilkenny Castings part number WO31) was the correct item for an 18R-G. Well, what I discovered on the weekend was that when they re-designed the thermostat housing for the 18R-GUE to make room for the fuel rail, they mirrored the upper housing to move the rear bolt toward the head. So the WO31 housing I purchased is no good for this application.

    I trawled around last night looking at the Kilkenny Castings catalogue and images of their range, and there are a few likely suspects which use the same gasket as the 18R-C, and look like they could fit. So it will be a matter of going through what the supplier has and working out the best fit item. I will let you know what the part number is when I figure it out.

    So if you have a standard 18R-G or 18R-GU and your thermostat has the rear upper housing bolt further away from the head than the front one, then WO31 will allow the standard upper hose to fit (for RA23/28/35/40 at least). If you have an 18R-GUE then it is a different story.
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Little help guys

    The little thing on the oil filter mount is the oil pressure? The connector looks the same as the 18rc plug
    If thats the oil pressure

    then what is the sensor on the sump?


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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Hi,

    Could be oil temp... but... the standard 18R-G mounting place for the oil temp (standard on GTV 18R-G models, and option on GT 18R-G models) was usually underneath the sump.

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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    I've seen a few sensors in 18RG sumps where that photo shows it.

    I would guess oil temperature or possible low oil level sensor.
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    Yeah, I have one of those on my spare sump, but i'm not sure what it does either... I don't understand the need for an oil temp sensor, when you think about it oil and water both pass through the engine, and will be at the same/similar temp, so there really can't be much benefit to getting temp readings from both fluids...
    It's definately not a level sensor either, but it could be a level switch however the chunky bit on the end won't do much floating, it seems to be made of bakelite or something similar... I also think it sits a bit low in the pan to be oil level, I always assumed the oil level would be much higher...
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    Default Re: For the love of a tractor engine: The life and times of the 18R-G

    It's not a sensor, it's actually a heater. Gets that cold in japan that you plug the car in overnight to keep the oil from freezing
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