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    Default 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    is it possible to bolt the 1ggze SC onto a 1G-GTE? has anyone ever tried it?


    ive got concerns with the inlet manifold having such a large radius and there fore touching the top of the SC.

    here is a R-A-G drawing of what i mean. looking front on at the 1ggte engine. the black is the 1ggte engine block and manifold (note: big radius manifold) and the green is the 1ggze manifold if you were to bolt that on (note: smaller angle) and the red peenut looking thing is the SC.

    so will the 1ggte manifold and the top of the SC interfere - like in the picture?



    judging by this pic, the GZE manifold goes straight up at 45degrees



    thoughts/opinions/experiences appreciated
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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    Note quite sure what you are trying to do Brett. Are you wanting to convert a 1GGTE into a 1GGZE or are you talking twin-charging?

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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    brett wants to twin-charge

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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    the idea is twincharging. ive all ready got a 1ggte in the RA40 and hope to bolt on a SC from a 1GGZE.

    im not asking how to twincharge, im asking if a 1ggze SC can physically fit to the 1ggte block without interfereing with the inlet manifold. i also assume the TVIS thingy under the manifold will need to be shifted.
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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    If it does interfere using the stock GZE brackets, why not simply make your own brackets to shift it down (sideways, heck what ever is needed) more Assuming there is room in the engine bay (which I think there is?).

    Suck it and see? If it doesn't fit with the stock bracket make it fit, I know you can

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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    bump.......
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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    is the sc held on by a pivot arrangement?
    ie you could keep the bottom bolt on connected to the block but pivot the top part out until there is enough space between the sc and the runners?
    do you have a 1ggze sc handy?
    can you just use the 1ggze inlet runners instead of the 1ggte variety?
    someone was parting out a 1ggze on the old formums and might still have the runners....they had a picture of the news reader from the simpsons.

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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    i remember reading somewhere (20 bucks says it was on bill sherwoods site) that to twin charge a 1g you have to start with the gze and bolt the turbos on.
    this is probably going to be your best bet

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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    im not asking whether i need a GZE or GTE to start off with, im asking if anyone has every physically tried to fit a GZE SC on a GTE.
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    This "GZE SC on a GTE." is unlikely - the comon experience is turbo anything with a SC attached.

    Remembering how wide my GTE manifold is, i'd say you've got no chance of making it fit.

    Anyway - you can weld pretty good? why not fabricate your own mounts or modify some existing mounts to suit?

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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    the GZE manifold looks like poo though. i would prefer a GTE mani
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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    then custom mounts it is

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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    Aye, custom mount it up. from memory it is fairly similar to the 4AGZE, which has sucky manifolds and mounts.
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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    if you double up the custom mount, I will buy a second off you

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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    Brett,

    Have you worked this out yet?

    Where bouts are you in qld? I have my SC14 off atm. The 1GGZE is running as a 1GGE for now. (geeez it sucks...) I would be interested to compare intakes etc myself.
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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    im in townsville


    looks like i will be trying the twincharge idea on a 3S....and it would be for a couple months yet.


    thanks anyway though
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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    Quote Originally Posted by brett_celicacoupe
    im in townsville


    looks like i will be trying the twincharge idea on a 3S....and it would be for a couple months yet.


    thanks anyway though
    No probs. PM me if you ever need me to get some pics for you...
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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    Quote Originally Posted by brett_celicacoupe
    im not asking whether i need a GZE or GTE to start off with, im asking if anyone has every physically tried to fit a GZE SC on a GTE.
    Brett,
    I had an SC14 S/C while I was stripping a 1G-GTE to sell the turbos to Grant. I held the SC up alongside the GTE in the spot where it would sit if it was a GZE motor.

    No, it won't fit there, it hits basically everything.

    As has been said before, the very few twin charged 1G's that have been done, started with a GZE base, as, as you know, its a damn sight easier to custom up turbo manifolds etc.

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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    Brett, consider a GE manifold, i've seen a GZE with a GE manifold and the SC14 hanging just below it. Surely the inverse of putting both items on a GTE would be possible.
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    Default Re: 1GGZE SC on a 1GGTE?

    have you pulled out your a/c compressor. . i have and it seems like there is alot of room available in that corner now. . . surely u could fit an a sc in that space - custom mounts though ?
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