Will a 1J fit into an S12?

[robski]

I'm tossing up a couple options for my engine conversion..now its not to go into a toyota but it is a Toyota engine..My main reason for considering the 1jz is that I've heard they are really strong engines and quite easy to get power out of and its cheaper than an SR..Its going to be a drift car..My other option is an SR20DET..Its to go into an S12.Will a 1J fit into an S12? Thanks for your help..
Cheers
Rob

I'm re-posting this because I didn't get much response to my last topic

Also if someone could tell me how much a 1J weighs and provide me with some measurements that would be much appreciated..and what would need to be done in terms of engine mounts, etc

[ghost]

Anything is possible if you are willing to do whats necessary to make it fit (safely). 1JZ has been successfully inserted into an S13 so if the engine bay is similarly sized to this then it can be done. There will definitely need to be a fair bit of custom work though.

[Rolla Boy]

Looks too short to me...

Move the centre of the firewall back a few inches and you should be fine...

[robski]

Ok thanks..this may be a noobie question..but how do you move the firewall back? With a hammer? And with the fitting of the 1J..is it longer than it is wide?

[ghost]

DON'T use a hammer to shape the firewall1 Very bad idea. It needs to be properly recessed by someone experience in sheetmetal work. You will also need custom mounts, and piping at the very least and possibly at every point where the 1J "meets" your car both mechanically and electrically.

[Rolla Boy]

Best of speaking to an engineer to make sure it's all legal first...

They'll be able to tell you more about the firewall and what else needs to be done...

[robski]

What are people's general opinions on a conversion such as this?

[Rolla Boy]

I say it's crazy, but if thats what you wanna do, go for it...

I prefer looks over speed, but it's not my car ...

[robski]

I'll be fixing it up lookswise to an extent like getting rid of the rust and straightening shit out..but more than anything I wanna get it driftable..its going to be a long project..so engine is a way of..just trying to get an idea of what would be needed to be done and would it fit etc etc

[oldcorollas]

Looks too short to me...

Move the centre of the firewall back a few inches and you should be fine...

really? so you don7t think that overly massive radiator shroud is taking up most of the engine bay space

get tape measure, go to importer/someone with 1J, measure it, measure engine bay, = answer to first question

crazy? umm... it's not very crazy
if it's what you want then sure, but the engine should be heavier than the 4cyl, AND will have more weight hanging out over the front, so it will upset the balance a bit,

but since it7s for Doriftorz, the handling shouldn't matter too much...

[Rolla Boy]

As I said before, an engineer will tell you everything you need to know to get it legal...

Good idea about planning everything first tho... Smartest way to do it...

[oldcorollas]

damn that orange sig is annoying!!

[smt_007]

I prefer looks over speed, but it's not my car ...

Ben i cant beleive you just said that, be gone to hot4s forums at once .

The conversion sounds like a crazy idea, but best speak to an engineer first.

[robski]

never mind didnt see other posts

[Rolla Boy]

really? so you don7t think that overly massive radiator shroud is taking up most of the engine bay space

Yeah, the shroud is huge but just by looking at the sides and the engine itself...

[robski]

What would make more sense to do? SR or 1J?

[suss_slide]

i think he mighta been talkin bout the nissan badge??

[ghost]

If it is a competition drift only car (ie not to be registered) then go crazy with it, get the trusty grinder and cut out the centre of the firewall and see how nicely you can get the 1JZ in there. Just make sure you are not in a hurry, and be prepared for the whole process to take about 5 times longer than you expect.You will however learn heaps along the way and have the satisfaction of a self built car. Though, even doing it all yourself it will probably cost more than you expect also.

Otherwise if it is to be registered then you need to ensure the legality of your mods long before you begin to attempt anything.

[oldcorollas]

for doriftoing? neither both a waste of cash.

which do you want?

find out the weights of both engines, se where the centre of gravity of the engine will sit (in relation to the front tyre contact patch.

or maybe go for a drive in an S12 with an RB conversion, so you can see how fooly sik the handling is.. see if it is affected adversly...

but seriously... if it is for drift, what does it matter which engine you get? it will be thrashed and will break, and the car shold be sideways, so that negates any real notions of handling etc, it just comes down to your preference.

[suss_slide]

also wats the point of straightening the body if its for dori dori?