ff to fr how hard is it

[toyota-celica]

gday guys i have a celica st162 has a 4agze engine its not a bad set up but its front wheel drive and id like to get into the drifting scene what would i need to do to go rear wheel would it be alot of work and whats the price range thank you

[Negative Boost]

Buy a different car. You'll spend $30 grand easy setting a ST162 up to rear wheel drive. Just thing about it, you need to cut a transmission tunnel. Setup a rear diff and drive shafts, the fuel tank would probably be in the way and you'll need new rear suspension. You'll need a new engine xmember, engine mounts, sump, gearbox, need i go on. And nobody would touch the dam thing anyways, its pointless. Buy a rear wheel drive car to start with.

[willwal98]

agreed. it's cool and all but all in all it's a bit of a waste of money. maybe an RA celica or a supra, or older corolla, soarer?

[toyota-celica]

yeah tanks for that guys i thought id ask befor i tried to do it and now i see your point i wont bother ill start hunting down a rear wheel i like

[Talasas]

Yes, best to start with a RWD. It could take weeks of discussion to just cover why it's so expensive.

[Billzilla]

Just get another ST162 engine & gearbox, and graft it into the rear of the car.
It'll be 4WD, and have double the power of a conventional FWD or RWD car.

[toyota-celica]

i actually saw a car like that in highoctane it was an old corrola it had an engine in the front and back

[brett_celicacoupe]

or buy a MR2 and graft the rear end of that onto the rear of your celica.

[bnicho]

gday guys i have a celica st162 has a 4agze engine ....

How come an ST162 has a 4AGZE in it? Seems like a stange conversion?

[Vios-GT_07]

AT162 sounds like it they exist in Jaaahpan and export to asian market..

i suggest take out engine and chuck it into a rear wheel drive corolla or older celica... (not the RA40 though or anything newer)

[celicapain]

just graft a rack and pinion set up on the rear, hook up a steering column and flip the seat around. then just drift it in reverse gear. easiest way i reckon.

[orestes]

or Just sell your car buy an ST165 GT4, and disconnect the front transfer box ?

[EldarO]

yeah, buying an ST165 rear subframe would be a start i guess.

dunno if anything would bolt up though.

would be awesome to see though

Elmo.

[Andrew162]

gday guys i have a celica st162 has a 4agze engine its not a bad set up but its front wheel drive and id like to get into the drifting scene what would i need to do to go rear wheel would it be alot of work and whats the price range thank you

upgrade the engine to GT2 spec (turbs, I/C, etc.) so it's got good power, and make damn good use of the handbrake! who said FWD's (FF) can't drift?

[adamaw11]

just graft a rack and pinion set up on the rear, hook up a steering column and flip the seat around. then just drift it in reverse gear. easiest way i reckon.

Then you'd be drifting a REAR engined rwd - even worse than trying to drift an mr2.

[Andrew162]

How come an ST162 has a 4AGZE in it? Seems like a stange conversion?

yeah I thought the same until I read up on the engine specs/variants of the 162's and 184's and the like in the Haynes manual. 3S-FE, 3S-GE, 4A-GE, 5S-FE and would you believe even a 2S engine is included?

[Squid]

yeah I thought the same until I read up on the engine specs/variants of the 162's and 184's and the like in the Haynes manual. 3S-FE, 3S-GE, 4A-GE, 5S-FE and would you believe even a 2S engine is included?

Wouldn't that then make it an AT162?

Edit - Don't do what has been suggested and convert a 165 to RWD, IMHO if you buy something that was initially set up for RWD you will be better off (sprinter?).

[tooch]

upgrade the engine to GT2 spec (turbs, I/C, etc.) so it's got good power, and make damn good use of the handbrake! who said FWD's (FF) can't drift?

Arse-dragging isn't drifting
Hellishly fun though, maccas trays, wet carparks and my old AE82 gave me many a good time

[Negative Boost]

Haha, try some cooking trays, they're even better. Sparks FTW!

[Andrew162]

Arse-dragging isn't drifting

yeah but it's gotta be better than cooking reverse gear for a dorifto! helical gear squeal FTL.

Wouldn't that then make it an AT162?

fucknose... just quoting the specs I spotted in the Gen4 & Gen5 Haynes Celi manual.