Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

[CrAiGzEE]

4age valve stem seals are the same as 1g

for power steering in a ra23 use a mx62 item (almost bolt up)

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who just gave me reputation fro this post? can you send me a PM please?

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[Joshstix]

It wasn't just then but I have given you rep for this thread.

It's handy making a post that catchs the attention of an admin as being a good thread. Admin votes are rather substantial.

[EVOSTi]

yep this thread was a top idea. good to see people making contributions who have first hand experience rather than 'heard it from some guy so it must be true' stories.

[Steve-AE86]

16v 4age bucket/shims are interchangeable with 2nz-fe(echo) buckets, therefore allowing higher revability in the 4age, by not flicking out shims with big cams, etc..

i'm dying to do this...i wish someone would give me a 4age to do it to

[CrUZida]

2nz-fe buckets fit a lot more motors than just the 4age.
They are also shimless buckets.

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are they shimless, or shim-under?

i know the 1nzfe are shimless

[CrUZida]

Hmm, good point.
One would assume that if they used shimless on 1nz-fe, then it would be shimless on 2nz-fe.
But I can not confirm that.

[Steve-AE86]

they're the same...shimless.

[BradW]

Everyone probably knows this already but for any one who doesn't, here goes.

When fitting a 4AGE into a KE3x/5x corolla the sprinter T50 gearbox rubber mount bolts straight onto the KE gearbox crossmember. This then bolts to the rearward gearbox crossmember bolt holes on the chassis of the KE. I don't know if this is the same for KE1x/2x corolla's though.
Custom engine mounts then need to be made to suit.

Hope this is useful to some one considering this conversion.

[Mr DOHC]

RN47 calipers are direct bolt on fit to RT104 coronas

[Norbie]

Speaking of Coronas, for a decent front brake upgrade on an RT142/ST141 you can use RA6x Celica hubs, rotors and calipers. It bolts on with no mods and it's a substantial improvement over the solid-disc stockers.

[CrUZida]

How is the bias after that?
Wilbo did that to his MX62, and the bias was f*cked.
He had to use an SA63 bias valve to get it back to something reasonable.

[Norbie]

Can't tell you what it was like, the guy who did it sold the car before the project was finished.

[takai]

16v 4age bucket/shims are interchangeable with 2nz-fe(echo) buckets, therefore allowing higher revability in the 4age, by not flicking out shims with big cams, etc..

i'm dying to do this...i wish someone would give me a 4age to do it to

1SZ, 2NZ and 1NZ are all the same shimless bucket setup. And when i start building my new engine i promise you can have a play with the shimless buckets Steve
For other odd stuff:
* SW20 MR2 pads fit AE101 Superstrut twinpot calipers
* All T13/4 hubs are interchangable (as you would expect).
* Early 3SGTE CV joints (ST185?) are the same as AE92 GTZ E58 joints.
* Not only are 4AGE valve stem seals the same as 1G but also 3S

Thats all i can think of for now.

[wilbo666]

SA63, RA60, RA65, MA61 Struts fit MX62 Cressidas Brake bias is all wrong (can be fixed with SA63 Bias valve). Camber is close to factory with SA63 struts.

MX62 Power window motors fit 96ish model Camrys! I suspect that most Toyota's use the same power window motor since the dawn of time?

ST14x / RT142 / xA6x / MZ1x / clutch pedals are the same, as are master cyls (these will NOT fit a MX62 easily ).

RA65/SA63 clutch line can be made to fit a number of cars with very minor bending, these include MA61, MZ1x, MX62 (I also suspect ST/RT14x lines would go close to fitting assuming the slave cyl is mounted on the passenger side).

Cheers
Wilbo

[takai]

Oh yeah, almost forgot.
MA61 Clutch pedals fit MX83s. Infact with all the similarities i woudlnt be suprised that the MA61 and MX83 are actually the same chassis.

MA70 Clutch pedals fit MZ20s

[Norbie]

The MA61 chassis is almost the same as the MX73 chassis; the MX83 is quite different. Are you sure you're not talking about the MX73 here? I'd be kinda surprised if MA61 pedals fit in an MX83.

[wilbo666]

The MA61 chassis is almost the same as the MX73 chassis; the MX83 is quite different. Are you sure you're not talking about the MX73 here? I'd be kinda surprised if MA61 pedals fit in an MX83.

CrUZider reckons that MA61 clutch pedals don't fit MX73. He was using a GX61 (i.e. MX62 ish) clutch pedal which if I recall fitted perfectly?

Ah the wonderful world of Toyotas.... my mind boggles

Cheers
Wilbo

[CrUZida]

They don't fit.
Yes, they bolt on, but they don't fit properly.