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    Hi I would like to report abuse of the reputation system by another Toymods forum user. I neg repped a post for legitimate reasons and the user has retaliated by childishly neg repping me, for a post which was 100% informative. I would appreciate the innapropriate use of the rep system by the offending user being reversed

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    Hi,

    You'll have to PM us (probably Kirsty is the best one to sort this out) with the details so we can check the offending threads, etc.

    Personally, I can't wait until we get the forums moved across to the new server and with the latest version of software, so we can remove all rep, plus and minus, from the Non Car Discussion area, as this is where most people seem to get their rep - usually for witty or amusing comments, instead of technical input.

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    I've been neg repped in the same fashion before, I figured it was the way the system works. Naturally someone you neg rep will do it back because they don't like being neg repped, it is childish I agree.

    Frankly though (on the subject of the rep system) I don't see it getting used enough, not enough people get repped for their good technical input. When someone replies to a tech thread I've started and gives useful input they deserve rep in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by river
    Hi,

    Personally, I can't wait until we get the forums moved across to the new server and with the latest version of software, so we can remove all rep, plus and minus, from the Non Car Discussion area, as this is where most people seem to get their rep - usually for witty or amusing comments, instead of technical input.

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    Dan,

    I have fixed your rep and I will be handing out some of my own very shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyCarS
    but seriously tomvale and yld16l are the masters, damn act public service!
    Meh, unless the rep points were transferable for cash I give no fark if I have 2 or 2 million, I'm sure some people feel the same, obviously though many others place a great deal of value in the rep system.

    I contribute to the tech section but I find it wears you down, you post solid advice, experience or solutions based upon actual first hand accounts, it will then be undermined by 20 posts from floggers who post "facts" they read on boostcruising or similar and debating with idiots is tough because they have so much experience at being idiots............so yeah, it gets old real quick sometimes and you just have to think to yourself - whatever.

    I think the rep system offers very little to the forum, bad trading isn't reflected in rep until such time as the real bad traders are named and shamed and a vigilante group neg reps them to oblivion.

    Technical knowledge isn't reflected in the current system (sounds like the new system will better reflect it).

    I find the members rides section easier for determining peoples technical prowess and how much their advice is worth It's kind of like viewing their resume.
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    yld16l u have PM

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    YLD-16L - As far as I am aware, what you are looking for in the rep system is what is planned to come. As it is we would like rep for the tech sections only, and some kind of sales reputation as well.

    It is all a waiting game to get the ball rolling with the new hosting (in progress) then the transfer of the forums over to the newer version.

    As this develops no doubt there may be threads asking for users/members opinions as to how people would like to see things done.

    Your feedback at that point would be appreciated.

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    that will be a dark day for tomvale13, I shall have to resort to half naked lady pics to inflate my e-peen.
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    In agreeance that there are problems with the current rep system. As for the tit for tat neg repping, I allow people 1 cry neg. If they put a second cry neg in, then chances are they don't have enough rep to keep playing (haven't come to that yet).

    One thing, what will be the restrictions in the trading section this time?? Same as before?? Will the existing rep be transferred, or will existing members transferring start back on minimum rep?? or will they be granted minimum trading rep should they already be above it on the current forum?? Won't affect me since I am already a paying member, but interesting to know anyways.
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    restrict classifieds to actual paying toymods members

    now wouldn't that kick up a stink
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    It would also restrict the resources available to paying members and thus disadvantage us.

    But yeah, the outrage would be tremendous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambolica
    YLD-16L - As far as I am aware, what you are looking for in the rep system is what is planned to come. As it is we would like rep for the tech sections only, and some kind of sales reputation as well.

    It is all a waiting game to get the ball rolling with the new hosting (in progress) then the transfer of the forums over to the newer version.

    As this develops no doubt there may be threads asking for users/members opinions as to how people would like to see things done.

    Your feedback at that point would be appreciated.

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    Like many here, i too look forward to finding out about the changes in the reputation system and wondering if it was also possible to include in the members rides sections? I know that some people rep a 'cool car' but i have seen time and time again when others offer advice and assistance that contributes immensly to the thread/owner. Yes there are ways around this if not but i feel there are more of the latter going on but not knowing for certain how its distributed.

    Also, there was mention of not taking it out of the non-car threads but just limiting the value to +/- 1, is that compatible with the new system?

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    Also the ability to choose how much rep up to the maximum you can give would be nice. I think this was suggested by River ages ago??
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    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23
    Also the ability to choose how much rep up to the maximum you can give would be nice. I think this was suggested by River ages ago??
    that would be good.. sometimes post aren't that helpful, but you want to give encouragement....
    or aren't that bad, but still deserve a rap over the knuckles
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    Members rides would be classed as tech I'd imagine, This is usually where I find all the good info.

    As far as Rep in the Outhouse, Limiting it may be an option if the software allows it. but it would be like +/- 1 as this is by far where most of the rep is generated. Usually for unwarranted reasons.

    Whilst seeing the rep of a user (particularly for new users when deciding weather the information is accurate or not) is somewhat important. the setup, I assume that will be decided by the board will be based around tech info. hopefully a classifieds rep, but will be limited to stop abuse of the system. so it isn't so much a marker of e-dick size.

    Abuse of the system will always happen, neg repping for some random reason like not replying to a thread that you have forgotten about, or revenge repping or buddy repping will probably keep happening. but the childish users that do this will probably stand out alot more.

    Remains to be seen as the transfer occurs

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    Here's hoping the software is riddled with limitations.
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    would it be possible to have 2 different sets of rep? one for info, the other for buying/selling?
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    I wonder what, if any difference we would see in the forums with no rep system??

    In the tech section if someone posts complete BS or rubbish info someone more knowledgable is usually on to it pretty quick and its cleared up, sort of negating the need for rep as such due to the informal "peer review" process that occurs.


    I can see the potential for a small flood of cut and paste tech articles occuring as those who feel the need to gain rep scrabble for points on the new system, it occured on this current forum when it began. It'll probably happen again too, not an issue though just entertaining to watch people do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambolica
    Members rides would be classed as tech I'd imagine, This is usually where I find all the good info.

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